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With 1:49 left in the 2nd and 3 timeouts...

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that was a horrible sequence

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We possibly left points on the field. Considering we only lost by 2, even a FG would've been big.

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Was gonna make a thread about the mismanagment of time and timeouts by Rivera earlier today, but just too tired of all the negativity.

The points I find relevant is that this is one of the more glaring areas of weakness for him, among many. He clearly does not know what he's doing in two-minute situations. Who was it we played last year where IIRC, he kept waiting and didn't call the timeout before half while we were in FG range and we ended up going into the locker room without a score because of it. He took full blame for it then as well.

Then yesterday...

Think about it like this... Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if we score a FG there, whether we punt on 4th and 1 on our last possession of the game is irrelevant... We would've been up by 4. Just horrible coaching and very Fox-esque, except Foxy fully intended to be conservative and not call timeouts purposely, lol.

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What would Belichek have done....

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Rivera is a defensive minded guy... Chud should be dealing with offensive clock management no? Or at very least guiding what's going on with the 2 minute offense. They really did look lost at the end of the half Sunday. I was screaming for a timeout after the first play and they just lollygagged around getting back to the line and wasted 20 or 30 seconds.

Maybe it's something that they haven't worked enough on in practice... who knows?

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Atlanta had some timeouts, if we threw one or two incomplete passes too quickly, they could've gotten the ball back and had sometime to score.

I think Rivera was trying to find the middle ground between getting yards, first downs and preventing enough time left just in case. And had Smith not had that PI, I think we have a good shot at a FG.

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While we are all frustrated by the lack of urgency going into the half, fact is, we took a penalty on the drive and had we hurried up, we just would have had to punt and they would have had plenty of time to score on us.

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While we are all frustrated by the lack of urgency going into the half, fact is, we took a penalty on the drive and had we hurried up, we just would have had to punt and they would have had plenty of time to score on us.

That penalty came with only about 25 seconds left on the clock to go another 30 yards and that is just for a field goal. Any team in the NFL with 3 timeouts and 1:49 left who is trying to win is going to try and punch it in for 6. worst case is you come away with 3.

When you are on the road against a team like ATL, you play to win the game. Hell even John Fox was not this damn conservative.

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That penalty came with only about 25 seconds left on the clock to go another 30 yards and that is just for a field goal. Any team in the NFL with 3 timeouts and 1:49 left who is trying to win is going to try and punch it in for 6. worst case is you come away with 3.

When you are on the road against a team like ATL, you play to win the game. Hell even John Fox was not this damn conservative.

Yes but had we been rushing conserving time, that penalty may have come with 1:25

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I was talking about what this thread is about. 1:49 LEFT IN THE 2nd and 3 TIMEOUTS. Cam has made plenty of good throws so far but when it comes close to half time or the end of the game, our play calling is conservative, e.g., against the Bucs we had the ball with 2:55 before the half, started at our 20 and it took us 2:40 to call 8 plays, which ended in a punt. Against the falcons we had the ball with 1:49 left and was only able to call 7 plays that went for 24 yards. My post is not wrong. It takes us forever to move the ball when we are playing against the clock. We seemed better at this during his rookie year.

Throwing the ball deep with less than two minutes in the half in a close game is EXACTLY what defensive coordinators in this league don't allow you to do (unless, of course, you're a DC with a staggering drunk at safety, like the Panthers).

With three timeouts and 1:50, you throw underneath and work your way down the field 10-15 yards at a time (hopefully getting out-of-bounds on some of those plays and stopping the clock), all the while hoping one of those underneath throws will break loose for a larger gain.

You'd be screaming at Cam through the TV if he was throwing deep into coverage designed to prevent the deep throws.

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Just same ol pussy foxball we see time and time again

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Captains pass interference call was huge. 19 seconds left if the WR catches the ball in bounds, they have to kill the ball and kick it 15 yards further back.

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