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Looking at Cam's stats, there are a few things that I've overlooked, numbers-wise, and perhaps you all have as well.

Obviously, through the first 6 games, we were running a gimmicky, BS offense. Cam struggled. The two games in that span that he DID perform very well (again, strictly on numbers), he was expected to. Those teams were TB and NO. He also had a solid performance in Atlanta (though everybody wants to overshadow that with the fumble).

Cam's best games, dating back to his first game last season, seem to be when he throws the ball less than 29 times. Best two games this season, statistically? NO and Atlanta. Pass attempts in those games? 20 and 24, respectively.

The point? Keep Cam's pass attempts down, we have our best chance to win. Against NO, our defense played well enough to win, we won. Atlanta, defense did enough to win until the final drive.

If we can keep Cam's passing attempts down (comes down to running the ball effectively and defense), that is where Cam is most comfortable. Cam can take games over, for sure, but he doesn't HAVE to.

This may be something we all know, but I just found it interesting. Stats only say so much, but why is it that Chud can't see those stats and say "maybe there is a reason he does better when we throw less"?

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Another case of running the ball to run out the clock lowering the overall pass attempts?

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I would say run it, but our run blocking is horrid. Kalil was a big loss.

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Another case of running the ball to run out the clock lowering the overall pass attempts?

Perhaps. That was a thought. But the Washington game last season, we won by a 13 point margin, so it wouldn't make sense there. Same goes for the Indy and both TB games last season.

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Of course less pass attempts means we are controlling the game, but for a QB to be a Qb he needs pass attempts. Since this season is over lets let him throw like crazy and improve on the job.

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Perhaps. That was a thought. But the Washington game last season, we won by a 13 point margin, so it wouldn't make sense there. Same goes for the Indy and both TB games last season.

I wouldn't count the TB games for anything else but a W on the schedule last season. Watching those games were like watching the dirty ATL vs Panthers games where Vick treated us like one of his dogs. 72-0 or something like that for the 2 games that season. It counts in the record book but the other team wasn't even trying.

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I would say run it, but our run blocking is horrid. Kalil was a big loss.

It is bad, but we saw last week that as long as we run some more conventional runs and just keep at it, even if it doesn't result in much early, eventually we wear down the opposing team's DL and Stew breaks through for a solid gain. Maybe we need to focus less of our game-plan on trying to find the big play in the pass game and focus more on grinding games out the hard way and running the ball. Take a shot here and there, but for the most part, keep the passes short and simple and move methodically down the field.

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I wouldn't count the TB games for anything else but a W on the schedule last season. Watching those games were like watching the dirty ATL vs Panthers games where Vick treated us like one of his dogs. 72-0 or something like that for the 2 games that season. It counts in the record book but the other team wasn't even trying.

Fair statement, they were terrible last season.

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A little different spin on the same data...when we commit to running the ball, Cam plays better. Sticking with the run until there is no choice but to abandon it is the best thing for the team as a whole. The o-line loves it and they play better. The D loves it as it chews up the clock. Cam loves it as it keeps the other team's D honest.

Until we're down by 2 scores, we need to run at least 50% of the time.

Edit: Lightsout, I see that you came to pretty much the same conclusion 2 posts earlier while I was typing. We are in agreement that sticking to the run early is the key.

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Of course less pass attempts means we are controlling the game, but for a QB to be a Qb he needs pass attempts. Since this season is over lets let him throw like crazy and improve on the job.

Cam is still a QB, even with lower passing attempt numbers. He can improve his game, for sure, but we are in the "easier" part of our schedule from here on out. Why not try to see if we can get on a run? Why throw away the season now and further hurt the psyche in the locker room with not just Cam, but with the whole team? Run the football, see if we can tear off a winning streak, and see what happens. We saw last season what happens when this team is playing confident. They're deadly.

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Also, when we throw the ball 29 or less times, since the first game of last season, Cam has thrown 1 (one) interception. 1. Uno. Singular.

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I honestly believe this team could go on a tear the rest of the year if Chud would just get his head out of his ass. He needs to pretend he has Derek Anderson as his QB when he draws up the gameplan.

Our D is starting to get it together. We just need the right gameplan and this team could rip off 3-4 wins in a row.

Edit: Okay, this is getting scary. Every time I type a response, I come back into the thread and Lightsout has already posted the same thought.

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