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#41 Iceberg Slim

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

Based on how I see people demonize Cam, I have a lot more sympathy for Eli Manning....geez he is damned if does or damned if he doesn't......

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Why in every thread do you find a need to knock Cam?



In threads about Cam I am being honest that Cam is not playing well and needs to improve.

Why is that an issue?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Cam needs work, no doubt. I'm extremely critical of him at times too, albeit quietly. But stop acting like he should have the mentality of a 15-year vet. Jesus people.

Stop lowering your expectations. Everyone expects growing pains, but that's not grounds for excusing everything he does wrong on the basis of him being too young. I feel like half our roster consists of guys who aren't very good but the huddle insists it's okay because they are young or were drafted late. The coaches, fans, and most importantly Cam himself should expect more than that. It's the only way he will be able to improve to eventually get to that point. Criticizing him, even loudly, is not the same as hating on him or wanting to get rid of him. It's possible to think that he's not very good right now but still to think he's our QB of the future.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

watch auburn games from when cam was there.

the guy was hyped up and motivating everyone all game, even when they were behind.

he essentially willed that team to win many times. they came back because of the cam effect on team morale.

i haven't seen any of that and it's disappointing because i know he's capable of it.


I think that speaks volumes about the culture and enviroment in Carolina......one that Cam pretty much talked about from day 1. Losing and sucking is generally accepted within the organization. Maybe we simply don't have guys who will follow Cam. Hurney also spoke on the general topic.

Roster needs to be completed gutted. All old guys like Gross and Smith....need the boot. THOSE are our "leaders". Cam doesn't want to follow what they have done here and do. He shouldn't. The old guys era is about being inconsistant and having excuses every other year. I think that is the real issue in terms of leadership and Cam's role.

Cam has been bashed for his take on how things should go. Losing shouldn't be accepted. No need to learn to be a good loser. He pretty much is alone in that w/ the old guard and so called leaders.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

No second year QB can go in boss mode like that.


that's what the bengals coaching staff is demanding from dalton right now.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

I'm so tired of this knee jerk Cam sulks defense mode people go into. It's as if Cam is out there screaming and beating small children. He hates to lose. If that's a flaw then I wish this these coaches had the same problem.


Its not shocking long time employees of the Panthers dont understand people who hate losing more than anything. And see it as a flaw. When the boss has no standard of excellence, neither will the people under him.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

Where are the guys with the C's on their jerseys? They were selected to be captains and they aren't rallying the troops either. Did gross get his offensive lineman together when they were sucking ass? No!! Nobody does it on this team it's not just Cam. Steve Smith what is he doing on the sidelines?

There are other players on this team that aren't doing their job. If Cam goes to sit on the bench is he suppose to be going over plays by himself? That's on the coaches not him. Marty Hurney said that there were no leaders meaning this has been a problem long before Newton showed up. It's easy for Peyton to walk in with his résumé and demand respect. For Cam it has to be earned and more importantly your team and your coaches have to allow you to be a leader which I'm not sure is the case.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

Where are the guys with the C's on their jerseys? They were selected to be captains and they aren't rallying the troops either. Did gross get his offensive lineman together when they were sucking ass? No!! Nobody does it on this team it's not just Cam. Steve Smith what is he doing on the sidelines?

There are other players on this team that aren't doing their job. If Cam goes to sit on the bench is he suppose to be going over plays by himself? That's on the coaches not him. Marty Hurney said that there were no leaders meaning this has been a problem long before Newton showed up. It's easy for Peyton to walk in with his résumé and demand respect. For Cam it has to be earned and more importantly your team and your coaches have to allow you to be a leader which I'm not sure is the case.


c or no c, the qb is the leader of the team.

period.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

I think that speaks volumes about the culture and enviroment in Carolina......one that Cam pretty much talked about from day 1. Losing and sucking is generally accepted within the organization. Maybe we simply don't have guys who will follow Cam. Hurney also spoke on the general topic.

Roster needs to be completed gutted. All old guys like Gross and Smith....need the boot. THOSE are our "leaders". Cam doesn't want to follow what they have done here and do. He shouldn't. The old guys era is about being inconsistant and having excuses every other year. I think that is the real issue in terms of leadership and Cam's role.

Cam has been bashed for his take on how things should go. Losing shouldn't be accepted. No need to learn to be a good loser. He pretty much is alone in that w/ the old guard and so called leaders.



This has become my opinion too. The 'gettem next time mindset is sooooo engrained in that locker room its sickening.

Hurney validated it with the contracts.
Fox started it with "it is what it is'
Rivera hasn't had a strong enoughy personality to stop it.
And RICHARDSON has let it go on for over a decade.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:30 PM

Flacco is not the leader of the Ravens
Smith is not the leader of the 49ers

None of the fans of their teams expect those guys to carry and motivate overpaid vets on their team. As a paid professional you should do your job, and shouldnt need hand holding. Id also argue both organizations are better than the Panthers.


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