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#16 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:36 AM

Gross... most overpaid and overvalued commodity on this team. It would be hard to argue that D-Will isnt given his role this year, but he still can ball, Gross is just getting abused.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

Here's a good reference for contracts

http://www.rotoworld...tracts/nfl/car/


While some stand out more than others, just about every non-rookie contract is bad and overpaid. I don't know who negotiates contracts for this team but good lord man.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

Here's a good reference for contracts

http://www.rotoworld...tracts/nfl/car/


While some stand out more than others, just about every non-rookie contract is bad and overpaid. I don't know who negotiates contracts for this team but good lord man.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:51 PM

I see a price hike at Bojangles coming

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

I see a price hike at Bojangles coming

which would be weird since JR doesn't own that anymore.

:)

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:19 PM

For those looking for contract info here's my favorite site for it.

http://www.spotrac.c...olina-panthers/

you can click on each player individually to see their cap figures. For some crazy reason they make you pay to see the contracts of those on I.R

They list the signing bonuses and the prorated amount that count against the cap each year.

Gross is a player who can really save us come cap room by restructuring. I think we'd be crazy to out right cut him at this point as we have no one near his ability on the roster to play left Tackle and I still think he's above average at the position.

Anyway he only has 1 million of signing bonus expected to hit the cap next year and has an overall figure of 11.7 million(total cap hit). Should be a an easy restructure that can get us much needed relief on the cap.

Things will get very interesting here in a couple of months.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

which would be weird since JR doesn't own that anymore.

:)


Quit pissing in my cornflakes :rock:

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

Quit pissing in my cornflakes :rock:

lol quit eating them on the floor beside my toilet.

never understood why so many people do that.

#24 charlotte49er

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

All or nearly all the contract info is available to anyone online. It just takes patience to pick through it and a little research to figure out the impact on the cap should you cut or trade the player.


http://espn.go.com/b...ontinue-in-2013

The Carolina Panthers already have $118 million committed toward the 2013 salary cap and that’s with only 42 players under contract. Only four teams have more cap room committed to 2013 than the Panthers; Philadelphia leads the league with $134 million committed to 45 players. And remember: The Panthers haven’t even drafted their 2012 rookies yet. Once they draft and sign those guys, they’ll be over the projected salary cap.

http://profootballta...ply-until-2013/

Remember, it’s not cap space but cash spent. So when a team like the Panthers gives defensive end Charles Johnson a $30 million signing bonus on a six-year deal, only $5 million counts against the cap — but $30 million counts against the league’s total spending requirement of $3.8 billion.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:20 PM

we're hosed for two years unless we get a genius for a GM...I knew Marty was an idiot after the Duhlomme deal and he hung on to losers fooooreva,,,

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

Thank you, Marty Hurney,-- I think gross, Godfrey, and Gamble (GGG) could be done by JANUARY

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

I'm glad this thread was started. I was thinking of starting one myself titled "cleaning House".

We need to get one of the posters here who has access to the dollar figures for all Panthers contracts..(players/coaches)

since we have people on here screaming ...fire him or cut him or he has to restructure his contract, yada,yada, yada.....

Lets see what our new GM really has to work with. Lets see what the cap hit is for players to be released or what will it

cost to restructure contracts.........then lets see what will it cost to jettison the entire coaching staff.

I'm not quite sure if some of the people screaming so loudly know what replacement cost is.........but they need to.

Marty dug us a hole that it's going to take some time to get out of and there's an old saying that applies here......

"you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t"

So, someone take the bull by the horns and work the numbers ............and tell us how bad it really is.

Could you find room for more spaces next time? I think your sentences are a little too close together.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:23 AM

we're hosed for two years unless we get a genius for a GM...I knew Marty was an idiot after the Duhlomme deal and he hung on to losers fooooreva,,,


Meh, we're not hosed. We're up against a tight space for next year, but a little creativity and we'll be fine.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:11 AM

Hope you're right mate...

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:27 AM

Cap Hits 2013

Base + Signing Bonus cost = Cap Hit (Cut/Trade/Retire Cost)
Easy Money
Jordan Gross: 8.7m + 0.83m = 9.53m (1.6m)
Chris Gamble: 7.9m + 3m = 10.9m (6m)
Cost more to replace than to keep
Ron Edwards: 2.5m + 0.83m = 3.33m (1.67m)
Haruki Nakamura: 1.3m + 0.33m = 1.63m (0.67m)
Greg Olsen: 3.75m + 1.7m = 5.45m (5.1m)
James Anderson: 2.9m + 1.4m = 4.3m (4.2m)
Cheaper to keep
Steve Smith: 3.75m + 2.5m = 6.25m (7.5m)
Thomas Davis: 1.5m + 1.4m = 2.9m (4.2m)
DeAngelo Williams: 4.75m + 3.2m = 7.95m (9.6m)
Charles Godfrey: 1.6m + 1.83m = 3.43m (7.32m)
Jon Beason: 5.25m + 3.33m = 8.58m (13.33m)
Ryan Kalil: 4.75m + 3m = 7.75m (12m)
Jonathan Stewart: 1m + 1.5m = 2.5m (7.5m)
Charles Johnson: 6.75m + 5m = 11.75m (20m)
2013 Greg Hardy 575k and the final year of his rookie contract, needs a new contract.

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