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#193 Lumps


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:12 AM

Eh Fox's last season with us, he went 2-14...

Rivera went 6-10 his first season, and has a chance to go 7-9. That would be improvement.

Cam vs. Clausen ... lol

I don't see improvements, I saw the same problems. Rivera staying wouldnt be the end of the world if JR put him on a short leash but that isn't like JR so I'd rather try someone new.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

By making him learn a new system just as he's hitting his stride?

How would that be a positive?

Because Chud's system has definitely worked against elite teams...

Our leading rusher is our QB...We have had games where we scored 10, 7, 12, 14 (twice), 21 (twice). That is essentially 7 guaranteed losses in the NFL unless you are playing an equally inept offense which doesn't happen in the NFC nowadays. You cannot have crap games and expect to get to the playoffs.

IMO we have played 3 impressive games all season and two of them came against two teams that probably aren't going to the playoffs (Skins and Chargers).

So you can be fooled all you want to into thinking that the Chud/Rivera staff is a good coaching staff but they aren't. They come from a culture of losers (San Diego and Cleveland). Rivera has NO CLUE what the hell he is doing as a HC and I have thought so since about midway through last year. The guy CAN'T coach against the best in this league and that's what you have to do to win on a consistent basis.

Having Cam learn a new system is not the end of the world. He did pretty well last year after having no training camp and is still playing well this year. This is not a Cam Newton problem. This is a Ron Rivera/Rod Chudzinski problem and if we want to win they have to go.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

I have mixed feelings on Rivera returning. I'd like to think he's learning from his mistakes. If they blow out every team from here on out, I guess that would be enough for me to change my mind.

This is exactly how I feel as well, especially thinking last year in the last quarter I thought they turned the corner.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

I want to like Rivera but to many mistakes have been made. The failure to adjust the defense in th Chicago game sealed it for me.

I would love for him to stay on as defensive coordinator, that is where he is best suited.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:03 AM

I like Ron, he will land on his feet as a DC somewhere, either the end of this season or next season. For the Panther's sake, I hope it is the end of this season.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:13 AM

What does it say about the players, when they have said they are playing to help keep RR's job? Does it show that the layers believe in him?

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:16 AM

In simple terms.. Rivera isn't a Superbowl winning HC. Great DC but doesn't have what it takes to lead teams to W's when they matter. Id much rather start over and have someone else then know we are going nowhere with Rivera. On to the next please.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

It would be nice if Rivera could address his mistakes and plan moving forward.Mistakes for a second year HC are to be expected.The real issue is can he or will he correct them.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

It would be nice if Rivera could address his mistakes and plan moving forward.Mistakes for a second year HC are to be expected.The real issue is can he or will he correct them.

here's the problem with that: it's someone else's fault.