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#145 rayzor

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

especially when route running can be taught and practiced. he will be on another level than hunter when he adds route running to his arsenal and its actually not as bad as they claim

the thing is his route running is pretty good now as it is. he's not nearly as bad or as raw as "they" claim, not that the number of "them" is very big now.

and with keenan allen not working out at the combine, i doubt it's very long before patterson is considered pretty much the consensus top WR. lots of people are paying more attention to his tape now than before and are noticing how good a receiver he really is.

but any receiver coming out of college is going to have a lot of room for growth...just like any player. no one is "ready" for the NFL. the good thing is we have one of the best route runners for his time as WR coach. hard to think of a better teacher for any receiver than proehl.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:31 AM

the thing is his route running is pretty good now as it is. he's not nearly as bad or as raw as "they" claim, not that the number of "them" is very big now.

and with keenan allen not working out at the combine, i doubt it's very long before patterson is considered pretty much the consensus top WR. lots of people are paying more attention to his tape now than before and are noticing how good a receiver he really is.

but any receiver coming out of college is going to have a lot of room for growth...just like any player. no one is "ready" for the NFL. the good thing is we have one of the best route runners for his time as WR coach. hard to think of a better teacher for any receiver than proehl.


i completely agree ive been saying proehl was a reason not worry for awhile. him and smitty will have his routes down in no time

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

so? playmakers. game changers.multi-faceted/dimensional. several ways to abuse the other team and score touchdowns. brings more to the table. you make it sound like a bad thing.


I just want him to be great in the thing we drafted him for all the other poo I could care less about. We got enough guys who can take hand offs.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

Where are you seeing this crap about his hands? The only thing I've ever read that mentions his hands is from CBSSports: "He is a natural hands-catcher, but will have some concentration lapses..." That's literally it. Not even close to 'suspect' or being the 'body-catcher' that you've called him.

Your boy Hunter, though? "Hunter lacks natural hands to corral fastballs and is too inconsistent catching the ball with a lot of body catches and double catches. He needs to secure grabs and doesn't always look the ball into his hands or locate, battling streaky hand/eye coordination." Also, Hunter only had two touchdowns against SEC teams. Not a problem for Patterson--if he has trouble getting going on offense, he can find a way to contribute. But if Hunter's issues continue in the NFL, he's a bust.

As for the injury thing, I trust the coaches not to destroy him.


My eyes I don't need my daddy's Mike Mayock or Mel Kiper to tell me about a prospect.
I can look at film and know what I'm looking for. Maybe you should try that out yourself instead of listening to what Silva tells you he see.

Plain and Simple I see more separation when running routes from Hunter. I see more routes from Hunter. I see more jump ball catches and little effort spent catching the ball while moving in Hunter. I've seen to many times where Patterson is letting the ball hit his chest (which can be fixed) and not getting a lot of separation on slants and comeback routes (which can be fixed as well). But why not get the guy who can do it now?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

I just want him to be great in the thing we drafted him for all the other poo I could care less about. We got enough guys who can take hand offs.

all the other poo combined with his obvious skills as a receiver would be the reason we or anyone draft him. you draft the total package...receiver, returner, rusher....all of which he is a real threat at doing. instead of a guy that all he does is catch the ball and do well at it, you draft a guy who does several things well. sorry, but even if hunter is a better receiver (which is debatable, although i agree that the more experienced and better coached hunter is more polished atm) he's not good enough to make up for the total production that patterson can provide nor is his ceiling as high as patterson's.

he's a playmaker. he's a guy that can bring production in a multitude of ways. not sure why thats a problem unless you just like for people to stay in small boxes....you know, where all RBs do is run the ball, all QB's do is throw the ball, and all WR's do is catch the ball.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

all the other poo combined with his obvious skills as a receiver would be the reason we or anyone draft him. you draft the total package...receiver, returner, rusher....all of which he is a real threat at doing. instead of a guy that all he does is catch the ball and do well at it, you draft a guy who does several things well. sorry, but even if hunter is a better receiver (which is debatable, although i agree that the more experienced and better coached hunter is more polished atm) he's not good enough to make up for the total production that patterson can provide nor is his ceiling as high as patterson's.

he's a playmaker. he's a guy that can bring production in a multitude of ways. not sure why thats a problem unless you just like for people to stay in small boxes....you know, where all RBs do is run the ball, all QB's do is throw the ball, and all WR's do is catch the ball.


Hey if you want to add another player to run a lot of Gimmick plays and add more trickery to a offense that already has to much of it and need to get back to the basic anyway. Then that's your opinion. And being realistic the better he gets at being a WR the less he will be doing that stuff anyway.

But from what I've heard all off season is you and other wanted to add another weapon in the passing game. You have been screaming about wanting a Deep Threat who can take the top off of the defense and allow 89 to move to the slot. Well Justin Hunter is 6'4 runs a 4.48 coming off of a ACL injury and not being at full speed and can make the exceptional jump ball catch down field. He instantly (from day one) can compete to be your deep ball and Red zone threat because of his size and speed. He from day one is a mismatch for smaller CB. He is polished like you said so he isn't spending the Mini Camp and TC learning how to run routes. IMO I see more instant impact from Hunter then I see in Patterson. Again I'm not saying Patterson won't have a impact. I just see Hunter as a different WR that we don't have on the roster. We have WR and RB that can run a wildcat and Reverses. We still have Adams and Pilaris who can run all the gimmick plays we just didn't use them. We don't have a 6'4 wr with speed that can run routes like Hunter can.


Again this is just my opinion.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

I also find it a little crystal ballish that you think Patterson has a higher celling. Why is that?
And please don't say all the kick returns and gimmick plays. Because we both know that if he develops into a number 1 WR. He won't be doing that stuff anymore. No team will risk their number 1 Wr like that. So please tell me how Patterson has more upside then Hunter.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:04 PM

if you can't see why patterson has more upside than i do not know what to tell you. You can just watch and see.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

if you can't see why patterson has more upside than i do not know what to tell you. You can just watch and see.


If you can't come up with a reason then why even post this stupid poo?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

If you can't come up with a reason then why even post this stupid poo?


Because i can use my eyes, and the kid just has "it." I don't really know how to explain maybe i just watched his juke moves, his speed, his innate intelligence to play the game and that is what i describe as upside. you are a testy SOB aren't you?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

Because i can use my eyes, and the kid just has "it." I don't really know how to explain maybe i just watched his juke moves, his speed, his innate intelligence to play the game and that is what i describe as upside. you are a testy SOB aren't you?


Yeah I love people who say a player has "it" and can't explain what "it" is.

Well let me try. I think Justin Hunter has "it". Any player that can come off a ACL injury. Still run a 4.48 and produce great college WR numbers like 73 rec. 1083 yards and 10 td has "it".

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

Yeah I love people who say a player has "it" and can't explain what "it" is.


I'll try my best.

He's "raw" so he doesn't have all the technical ability yet. Route running, catching with hands consistently, those are literally the only flaws in his game. Seriously.

He has "it" or he has "upside"

His work ethic is suppose to be very good, he is a great teammate, He is not a showboat (although this wouldn't bother me) and he seems to genuinely love the sport. While this might seem insignificant to you, you invest in these kinds of players, especially in the first round.

I look at him catch a ball in the flats or in the open field and INSTANTLY make a move upfield, displaying his athleticism dodging defenders seamlessly at the moment he catches the ball. This amount of quickness cannot be taught.

He has a nose for the game. When he is in the open field and he has blockers, he seems to find that direction to go to give him 10 to 20 more yards. He knows how to get to the pylons. This cannot be taught. This is crucial. This is what seperates him from Hunter imo. He has instincts to know how to score.

His height/speed/weight and the three things i mentioned before, go hand in hand for him having the "it" factor. If you combine all that with him progressing in his route running and catching with his hands (which he does, but yes he body catches some) you will have an insanely good reciever.

If he bulks up 10 more lbs and learns and becomes adept at route running and catching with his hands we will have a bona-fide superstar on our hands.


I know you will nitpick and disagree because i've read your posts for the past week but that is how i feel.