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Look, I've never made a "Sign this guy recently cut guy" thread before but

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If there was anyway possible to clear enough money for him (and I think he would go for around 5 mil per), he would be my number one priority this offseason and I'd put him at S. After him, I would probably want Sean Smith, but I doubt we create enough space for either of them.

This is kinda funny.

I was screaming at the TV during the 09 draft for us to take Smith....we grabbed Sherrod Martin.

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What makes you think he can still play? He hasn't played at a high level in two years.

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But wishfull thinking and speculation have nothing to do with the cap. Reality is for others to worry over. We are just a couple good deals from having some money to play with. Maybe not enough to sign Bowe or Woodson. But enough money to sign Canty and/or Byrd type players.

I would love to sign players like Byrd, Woodson, Canty, etc

It is just not going to happen. We have a hard road to unwind the cap mess we have.

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I heard he was wanting to play for a contender.......CAROLINA'S OUT!!!

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I can take or leave a 36 year old Woodson, especially if the school of thought that he can be a situational-nickel type DB. We can sign Cap much cheaper.

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I would love to sign players like Byrd, Woodson, Canty, etc

It is just not going to happen. We have a hard road to unwind the cap mess we have.

This is the fundamental difference. Some see the cap as a hinderance, while others see it as easily fixable. Cut Gamble and we are even. Redo Gross and the rookies are taken care of. Maybe with some change to spare.

Redo Beast and Goodfrey and cut Nakamura and R. Edwards and we should have some money to play with. Maybe not elite type players. But we should be able to upgrade 3 maybe 4 positions through FA, and still have the draft to look forward to.

It may not all happen, or even some of it. Who knows? But if I can dream it, it can happen.

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If he wants to play here at CB or S and we can make it work without hurting ourselves, I say we should go for it!

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This is the fundamental difference. Some see the cap as a hinderance, while others see it as easily fixable. Cut Gamble and we are even. Redo Gross and the rookies are taken care of. Maybe with some change to spare.

Redo Beast and Goodfrey and cut Nakamura and R. Edwards and we should have some money to play with. Maybe not elite type players. But we should be able to upgrade 3 maybe 4 positions through FA, and still have the draft to look forward to.

It may not all happen, or even some of it. Who knows? But if I can dream it, it can happen.

The difference is that you really do not understand the salary cap. If you think restructuring all if those large vet contracts "fixes" the issue you truly don't. By doing so, you are doing nothing but taking the current salary cap hell and pushing it out a season or two at the most. The cap hell we are in must be fixed for long term health...not short term gain and making our situation even worse long term .

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It is going to be interesting because two things are at odds, I think:

1. Rivera must win now

2. Panthers have salary cap issues and holes to fix to win now.

Regardless, my tickets cost the same so optimistically not realistically, I'm hoping for a miracle.

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This may give us the option of releasing gamble and signing him back on a more favorable deal. No one is going to fight over two old CBs.

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even if i had the money, i wouldnt sign him.....not giving an old guy a boat load of money...now if he comes cheap then yeah.

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The difference is that you really do not understand the salary cap. If you think restructuring all if those large vet contracts "fixes" the issue you truly don't. By doing so, you are doing nothing but taking the current salary cap hell and pushing it out a season or two at the most. The cap hell we are in must be fixed for long term health...not short term gain and making our situation even worse long term .

I am no capologist that is for sure. But I also try and stay away from that word restructure. And I wasn't talking about all the vet contracts. Just three. Beast, Gross, and maybe Godfrey.

I said redo. As in renegotiate, or an extension. Beast should be up for that, after all, he has been paid plenty to not play. Maybe it is time for him to give back?

Gross is on the tail end of his career, does he want to go through the cut/resign route? Maybe he will redo, maybe he won't. But if we can, we take care of the rookies.

Godfrey is another thing all together. Is he worth the trouble? Redo his contract and let him stay? Cut him and move on? IMO, do a risk/reward analysis and offer him a fair contract. And hope he takes it.

Redo a couple contracts and we can have some playing around money. Along with a few cuts. Canty will be cheapish. so will a lot of players. We don't need a ton of money to be players, just enough to do 3 maybe 4 upgrades. That shouldn't be all that difficult.

tl/dr version. IF al whole lotta maybe's happen. We gonna be very good. And if just some of them happen we are gonna be good. Either way. my giddy says Gettlemen gots this.

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