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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

you do realize parts of the media are black don't you?

But their employers are white. So they go with the flow. Towels are not that sacred to black people, I doubt they would care how someone use them. Lol

Cam was lucky he didn't blow his nose with that thing, he'd probably be in death row right now. whewww! That was close!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

lol the overreacting.

you might need therapy.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

Lol BB

How does making a rule enforcing race to be a factor help make race not a factor?

Cam's race...don't really care about, don't care about arguments about it either. Doesn't matter to me enough.

The rooney rule and afirmative action = a joke and counter productive IME. Not because racism doesn't exist, or that it needs a solution but because fighting racism with racism is just going to stir more hate and does not contribute to giving the most qualified person the job.

The problem is you cannot force people who are already racist to change. If people are racist and have racist agendas, a law or rule is not going to stop them. Educating future generations is the goal and solution, poeple don't like that thought because it isn't an instant solution like a law or rule 'is'. You cannot fight racism with racism. Getting racism out of society IS A PROCESS. It is something to work for, strive towards not something you just 'fix' or 'force', especially in the south.

Force a racist to interview a minority and you really think they'll all of a sudden change their ways and realize their faults? Not likely. But if anything I believe these rules are just masks over a problem that simply has no short-term solution. It's a mask that says "hey look we have a rule so we can't racist/hiring certain races!" Needless to say I am AGAINST minority hiring/interviewing on the basis of being a minority.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

i don't think it was a consideration.

what i'm wondering is how much rivera thought it should be since he found it disheartening that no minorities were hired for HC jobs. if he thought it was a big enough deal then maybe he should have hired hue to be his OC, unless OC doesn't count. guy was certainly qualified enough.


Your point is germaine. When they looked at the staffs of teams with minority head coaaches the coordinators were overwhelmingly white. Unless gingers are a minority Rivera is following the trend with 2 white coordinators. If minorities don't hire minorities themselves then how can they bitch.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

whats funny is that mr. scot started this thread without realizing what kind of racial poo thread this would turn into.

Stop pretending we're all living is this nice magical bubble universe called sports where race doesn't matter. This is no a homogeneous country. This a society where minority get screwed for the happy well-being of the majority. Pretending that's not the case is a disservice in itself. This is a world where Cam get shitted on for putting a towel on his head and great humorous articles are written about Cutler's grumpiness after showing off his teammates.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

Stop pretending we're all living is this nice magical bubble universe called sports where race doesn't matter. This is no a homogeneous country. This a society where minority get screwed for the happy well-being of the majority. Pretending that's not the case is a disservice in itself. This is a world where Cam get shitted on for putting a towel on his head and great humorous articles are written about Cutler's grumpiness after showing off his teammates.




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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

Lol BB

How does making a rule enforcing race to be a factor help make race not a factor?

Cam's race...don't really care about, don't care about arguments about it either. Doesn't matter to me enough.

The rooney rule and afirmative action = a joke and counter productive IME. Not because racism doesn't exist, or that it needs a solution but because fighting racism with racism is just going to stir more hate and does not contribute to giving the most qualified person the job.

The problem is you cannot force people who are already racist to change. If people are racist and have racist agendas, a law or rule is not going to stop them. Educating future generations is the goal and solution, poeple don't like that thought because it isn't an instant solution like a law or rule 'is'. You cannot fight racism with racism. Getting racism out of society IS A PROCESS. It is something to work for, strive towards not something you just 'fix' or 'force', especially in the south.

Force a racist to interview a minority and you really think they'll all of a sudden change their ways and realize their faults? Not likely. But if anything I believe these rules are just masks over a problem that simply has no short-term solution. It's a mask that says "hey look we have a rule so we can't racist/hiring certain races!" Needless to say I am AGAINST minority hiring/interviewing on the basis of being a minority.


Nobody have time to wait generations. That's total crap. It all boils down to the players. They have more power than you think. The league is about 70% black. if they all start talking the league will have no option but to react. The NBA was the same way at some point until players like Barkley started talking. In the business of sports the players are the commodity. The owners don't have a physical ownership of anything but contracts of great athletes and the revenue they generate. Unhappy players, unhappy league. Though, it seams so far the players are content. All the power to them.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPXrLWm7fE

stood corrected. You're white and happy, why would you have time for meaningless issues like black exclusion. And of course, with more 'speed' in the backfield the panther can make the playoffs, right?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

stood corrected. You're white and happy, why would you have time for meaningless issues like black exclusion. And of course, with more 'speed' in the backfield the panther can make the playoffs, right?



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

I was just laughing at your comments. Nothing Iposted was to you really.

But when you say option to react, option to react and do what exactly? What is the goal?

Because just recentley there was negeotiations between players and owners and both seemed happy at the end...what exactly are you proposing the players do with that power...in other words what are you negotiating? You want the players to own the NFL? Or you want the NFL to turn into basketball?

Nobody have time to wait generations. That's total crap.


This is why racim is slowly fading instead of quickly dying out. People like you drag it on through creating self-fufilling prophecies and devoting your energy to action instead of education and prevention. I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along. Did you not understand my original post? Once again, you cannnot convince most racist people they're racist or wrong. You can rarley change someone's opinion like that. And trying to by force won't do anything either and will contribute to more prophecies.


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