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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_OBIT_CHAVEZ?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-05-16-58-10



It wont be long until Iran accuses us of somehow causing his death

Could be a great opportunity for U.S.

Let's see how we handle.

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I wouldnt be surprised if we didn't [i]hasten [/i]his demise.

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[quote]Venezuela’s vice president claimed Tuesday that President Hugo Chavez's enemies gave him cancer, as two U.S. diplomats were expelled for an alleged plot to destabilize the government.[/quote]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/05/17196733-venezuela-vp-chavezs-cancer-was-an-attack-by-his-enemies?lite

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Figured that the charge will come from Iran first.

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I'm usually not one for conspiracies but I have no doubt that his death was hastened.

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Damned cancer guns!!!

Can't wait until the monochromatic t-shirts hit cafepress...

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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1362522621' post='2152025']
Damned cancer guns!!!

Can't wait until the monochromatic t-shirts hit cafepress...
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that's how they offed litvinenko.

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[quote name='mmmbeans' timestamp='1362523876' post='2152032']

that's how they offed litvinenko.
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That ish is crazy

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No...Litvinenko was directly poisoned with a radioactive substance and died shortly thereafter.

We'd have heard about this well before now.

VP is just as nuts as his former pres.

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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1362524413' post='2152040']
No...Litvinenko was directly poisoned with a radioactive substance and died shortly thereafter.

We'd have heard about this well before now.

VP is just as nuts as his former pres.
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not that i agree that this is what happened (or that we are above such tactics,) what do you mean "we would have heard about this before now?"

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Cancer. No wonder he was such a grouchy bastard. I have had that a couple times. It will make you grouchy.

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I smell sulfur.

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[quote]ROCKVILLE, MD—After noticing several news stories about the failing health of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, local man Spencer Gutowski, 45, struggled Monday to figure out if the death of Chavez was something he was supposed to be pleased about or not. “He’s bad, right? I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s one of the bad ones, but maybe he’s good?” Gutowski told reporters, adding that he believes Chavez is a Communist, which, according to Gutowski, means he should probably want Chavez dead, although he is not entirely certain. “Fidel Castro is bad and I want him to die, and I think Chavez is sort of like him, maybe. I also think I’m not supposed to like Venezuela. But then again [President] Bush didn’t like Venezuela, and I didn’t like Bush, so...” Sources later confirmed that Gutowksi asked if something at some point happened between the Venezuelan leader and actor Sean Penn in which Penn either ended up liking or not liking Chavez.[/quote]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-unsure-if-hes-supposed-to-want-hugo-chave,31534/

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Hundreds of millions, or perhaps billions of people around the world have contracted cancer and many of them have died from it, yet the US must have played a role in him getting it? I find it hard to believe that the CIA which some of you seem to believe is omnipotent, would take two years to get rid of someone that they decided to kill.


Fwiw, Chavez dying really doesn't gain anything for us. The guy replacing him isn't likely to change his policies.

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/sW3nPhk.png[/img]

my favorite tinderbox moment occurred when noted bircher blackcatgrowl argued that drudge is centrist

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Venezuela is not a threat to us and is a huge trading partner. Chavez used anti-US rehtoric to maintain power but otherwise was mostly harmless. Not a security threat.

He just proved yet again that socialism sucks. His people should hate him for using oil profits to further socialism but that is their business.

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LOL!
"At this challenging time of President Hugo Chavez's passing," Mr. Obama said in a statement released Tuesday evening by the White House, "the United States reaffirms its support for the Venezuelan people and its interest in developing a constructive relationship with the Venezuelan government.

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Venezuela isn't an enemy despite the rhetoric. We should encourage relations with them.

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[quote name='Happy Panther' timestamp='1362543052' post='2152286']
Venezuela isn't an enemy despite the rhetoric. We should encourage relations with them.
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Hey, they are pumping oil.

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[quote name='longtriad' timestamp='1362543298' post='2152290']
Hey, they are pumping oil.
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Certainly true. Oil is the only reason that Venezuela is anything more than a footnote in South American history.

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wow this sure is a thing happening in this thread

anyway:

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[quote name='gospodin shuttlesworth' timestamp='1362531013' post='2152111']
[img]http://i.imgur.com/sW3nPhk.png[/img]

my favorite tinderbox moment occurred when noted bircher blackcatgrowl argued that drudge is centrist
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In very bad taste for Drudge or anyone to post Hell's a Burnin. I know he and Iran leader made remarks about sulphur and such, but still in bad taste

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[color=#000000][font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Rep. Jose E. Serrano (D-NY):[/size][/font][/color]

[quote][color=#000000][font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif][size=4]President Chavez was a controversial leader. But at his core he was a man who came from very little and used his unique talents and gifts to try to lift up the people and the communities that reflected his impoverished roots. He believed that the government of the country should be used to empower the masses, not the few. [/size][/font][/color][b]He understood democracy and basic human desires for a dignified life. His legacy in his nation, and in the hemisphere, will be assured as the people he inspired continue to strive for a better life for the poor and downtrodden.[/b][color=#000000][font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif][size=4]”[/size][/font][/color][/quote]

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/03/05/1678661/why-democrats-shouldnt-eulogize-hugo-chavez/?mobile=nc

I think the Senator should read this:



[quote][color=#000000][font='Times New Roman'][size=1]
Consider examples. Hugo Chavez:[/size][/font][/color][list]
[*]re-wrote his country's [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Venezuela"]Constitution[/url]
[*][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Venezuela#A_unicameral_and_marginalized_legislature"]transferred (usurped?)[/url] Legislature's powers to the Presidency (has anyone called him [url="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=1418046"]"King Hugo"[/url]?)
[*][url="http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/categories/venezuela/2002/10/15.html#a108"]violated[/url] his new Constitution numerous times
[*]tries to maintain the state of fear to prop up his popularity
[*]uses the fear to militarize [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4635187.stm"]Venezuelan society[/url]
[*]labels opposition as "foreign spies"
[*]tightened the [url="http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/03/24/venezu10368.htm"]curbs[/url] on free expression — mere [i]disrespect[/i] for the President is now a crime in Venezuela
[*]grossly mismanaged his country's economy — despite the enormous oil windfall of recent years, the [url="http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=ve&v=67"]per-capita GDP[/url] has been shrinking until 2004, when a modest increase was finally achieved (thanks to another spike in oil prices)
[*]closed down the only opposition TV-station in the country.
[*]openly calls a political opponent "swine" and [url="http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE49O2FL20081025"]threatens to jail him[/url].
[*][url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/venezuela_protest"]used tear gas, plastic bullets, and water cannons[/url] to scatter the tens of thousands of demonstrators protesting his plans to modify the Constitution (again) to allow himself to run for re-election indefinitely
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http://www.cs.umb.edu/~mi/th/chavez.html

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