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Bucky Brooks' latest mock (has us passing on Patterson). Hmmph.


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#37 NCstoner420

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

He's a playmaker, plain and simple. If he's there when we pick, he's going to be taken by us. How many games has Devin Hester or Percy Harvin won based on returns and "gimmick" plays - a lot.


How many of those games ended with them raising the Lombardi Trophy?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

At WR we've got Steve Smith who is only a couple of years away from retiring and loses another step every season.. then Brandon LaFell who has the raw, blistering speed of a double amputee. Dude can catch but is still finishing his route from the last game. After those two, it's just a big bag of lol and meh.

I think I'd prefer to upgrade at DT or CB in the first, but WR should definitely be a consideration if the team thinks there's a future #1 there..

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

The more things change the more they stay the same. Especially around this place.

The optimistic among us see a talented kid with the ability to do multiple things. Big, strong, fast, and exciting. Something we need. They like the thought of an actual playmaker coming to Cam's rescue. They see a team that is only a few playmakers from being really good, and this kid can be that player.

Then you have the we are way to talent scrapped to waste a first round pick on an undeveloped WR. We need too many other positions to waste our first pick on a raw WR. We sucked last year, and if we don't pick BPA this year, we will suck again. We need to draft OT or DT to even get up to mediorce.

And then there are the folks who only debunk others ideas without adding any of their own. These are the folks who live the motto, "A complaint without a solution, is just a bitch." These folks are the comic relief all conversations need.

We have no idea what our team will look like come draft day. The speculation is all good and fun, but that is all it is. Speculation. Let people have their fun. Aw, who am I kidding. Too many folks live to nitpick others ideas to allow for speculation to be what it is. Fun.

Patterson is not going to make us worse. That in itself should count for somethiing.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

Patterson is not going to make us worse. That in itself should count for somethiing.


You could say the same thing about Cox last year but I still fought against drafting him and now look at the defense. It is leaps and bounds ahead of where we would be with Cox on the line.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

You could say the same thing about Cox last year but I still fought against drafting him and now look at the defense. It is leaps and bounds ahead of where we would be with Cox on the line.


That's what makes this time of year so enjoyable. The speculation.

It all comes down to perception. Some folks precieve us to be a talent scrapped team that can't possibly fill all those needs in one year. While others see us as a team that can make a splash with just a few right moves.

We have holes, there is no arguing that point. The point being, how many holes do you precieve. Me, I see a DT to pair with Dwan and a RG as priorities. Help in the secondary would be next. The first two we can fill with solid FAs. The secondary is a different animal.

Can we get value with a DB pick at 14? I say yes. Many say no. Some think vet DBs are either too expensive or not worth the time and effort. I say with the way this year is shaping up, who knows? Good quality vet DB help just may be in the cards.

That is some of the many predraft scenarios that make this time of year so much fun.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

Patterson is a kick returner and is not worth picking at 14. He jumps to catch almost any ball thrown at him using his body instead of just catching with his hands. This style of play will not work in the NFL.


I disagree, I think he's on par with Julio Jones, but he's raw right now.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

I disagree, I think he's on par with Julio Jones, but he's raw right now.


He is slower, smaller, weighs less, has smaller hands, shorter arms, can't jump as high and can't jump as far but sure he is on par with Jones.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:03 PM

Patterson is NOT Julio Jones coming out of Bama. His measurables are not the same, and he doesn't even know how to catch a ball with his hands, that is a bad habit. If we took him at 14 I would be extremely surprised. He will probably fall down to the Texans

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:39 PM

I disagree, I think he's on par with Julio Jones, but he's raw right now.


He is no where near on par with a Julio. I wish people would stop saying this stupid poo. If anything he closer to Joe Adams then Julio Jones and AJ Green.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:48 PM

He is no where near on par with a Julio. I wish people would stop saying this stupid poo. If anything he closer to Joe Adams then Julio Jones and AJ Green.


You're misinformed, let me show you why.

Patterson - 6' 2" 216 lbs 9" hands 31.75" arms 4.42 40 yard dash

http://www.nfl.com/d...rson?id=2540145

"He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board."


Jones - 6' 3" 220 lbs 9.75" hands 33.75 arms 4.39 40 yard dash

http://www.nfl.com/c...ones?id=2495454

Green - 6' 4" 220 lbs 9" hands 9.25" hands 33.375" arms 4.5 40 yard dash

http://www.carolinah...ph/page__st__30

Adams - 5' 11" 179 lbs 9.375" hands 33 7/8" arms 4.55 yard dash

http://www.nfl.com/c...dams?id=2532782

Gee, looks to me that Patterson compares favorable to both Jones and Green from the measurable standpoint and your inclusion of Adams was just stupid. But thanks for playing.

Patterson is raw, but he has all the physical tools to be an elite WR. His biggest knock is not catching with his hands enough, I have a feeling this is something WR Coach Ricky Proehl could help with.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:48 PM

Double post.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

Joe Adams has bigger hands than Patterson, hm. Didn't notice that before.