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Keenan Allen Pro Day Tommorow.

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TANTRIC-NINJA    2,653

Keenan Allen timed at 4.71, still recovering from an injury hurting his explosiveness...he is dead to me.

Tavon, Hopkins, Justin Hunter n Patterson are better and offer more to the table.

Keenan Allen just does nothing special and Robert Woods is the same. Just played at colleges with hot chicks with good weather.

Compared to Anquan Boldin-if you like him.

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mjligon    8,329

Keenan Allen timed at 4.71, still recovering from an injury hurting his explosiveness...he is dead to me.

Tavon, Hopkins, Justin Hunter n Patterson are better and offer more to the table.

Keenan Allen just does nothing special and Robert Woods is the same. Just played at colleges with hot chicks with good weather.

Compared to Anquan Boldin-if you like him.

How can you say he is nothing special, then compare him to Anquan Boldin?

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TANTRIC-NINJA    2,653

Mayock said if you like him..he is Anquan Boldin. A slow tough guy.. but he is nursing an injury that is still hindering him 2+ months.

I see just another Lafell..and not much difference between them. Allen a more polished catcher.

Why have 2 Lafells when you can get others in this draft. Hopkins is faster with a similar catch radius.

You go Hunter-Patterson if you want the catch radius n want the size speed rawness.

40 times confirm what you see on film..Tavon Austin looked ligtning quick and ran 4.3(proven and confirmed game and timed speed)

Dewayne Jarrett ran a 4.7 and played like a 4.5 guy at USC(as we know too well) Exact words about Keenan Allen. Not a great trend IMO. All about gaining seperation in the NFL..cant jump over college kids.

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Yaboychris28    1,321

I was talking about the way they both utilize their route running to create enough separation to make plays.

It all goes hand in hand. Bolden uses his size and strength to create separation Allen, with his lack of speed will have to find unique ways to create separation in the nfl. He won't be playing against pac 12 competition anymore

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SIGCHI222    7,057

For what it's worth, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71.

Everybody has an opinion but you guys that are dogmatically stating that your opinion is the only possible correct conclusion are making me laugh.

Once again I bring up Luke Kuechly, who like a total of 4 of us wanted last year during these discussions.

We should all just cool our jets.

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TANTRIC-NINJA    2,653

when you watch his games he does not get much seperation. his time confirms it. Luke kuechly was a need last season.. I wanted a DT but was a rational Huddler that has achillies issues and know Beason and TD could equal zero linebackers.

The Huddle bubble assumed full recovery for both..even saw someone say TD should go to FS?!? blown knees ...now cover Wrs n Tes..lol

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koolkatluke    474

For what it's worth, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71.

Everybody has an opinion but you guys that are dogmatically stating that your opinion is the only possible correct conclusion are making me laugh.

Once again I bring up Luke Kuechly, who like a total of 4 of us wanted last year during these discussions.

We should all just cool our jets.

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SIGCHI222    7,057

This comparison is outdated. The NFL of today isn't the NFL of 20 years ago. People should get that stamped into their brains. DBs that ran 4.3s and 4.4s were rare. So were RBs that were built like LBs and WRs that had DL/OL height.

Then maybe we should draft Usain Bolt.

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TANTRIC-NINJA    2,653

Then maybe we should draft Usain Bolt.

He would be a better WR prospect..Greg Olsen will outrun Keenan Allen...Dan Conner could catch him from behind lol..ok noow I am going to far.

With all things equal...WR that is slow 4.71 n 4.75...coming off of a knee injury that shows he still cannot cut well on drills..lost explosiveness you gotta have too much "faith" that Allen will have corrected and increased his abilities to say all of these measurables and flags are just phooey...

Hurney did that quite a bit as I recall.

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SIGCHI222    7,057

All I was doing is stating a fact. You guys can fuss all you want. I don't really have a dog in this fight.

Doesn't make the facts false or my observations untrue.

Best thing for all of us to do is go back and look at the last 10 years worth of drafts and see how many great players got picked after the 1st round and how many busts were picked in the first round. You are fooling yourself if you think you can discern the tea leaves.

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koolkatluke    474

All I was doing is stating a fact. You guys can fuss all you want. I don't really have a dog in this fight.

Doesn't make the facts false or my observations untrue.

Best thing for all of us to do is go back and look at the last 10 years worth of drafts and see how many great players got picked after the 1st round and how many busts were picked in the first round. You are fooling yourself if you think you can discern the tea leaves.

That's really not a fair comparison. There are 32 players selected in the 1st round and 192 (or around that number) after that. That's a way bigger talent pool to find failure and success.

But I get your point.

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SIGCHI222    7,057

That's really not a fair comparison. There are 32 players selected in the 1st round and 192 (or around that number) after that. That's a way bigger talent pool to find failure and success.

But I get your point.

No, my wife gets my point, you just understood what I wrote.

I'm just messin' with you Luke. I get it. But any of us who say we have it figured out are just foolish.

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