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#46 Proudiddy

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:33 PM

I don't think Porter will be there at all. The other thing is, I don't think McLemore will be anything other than a JAG in the NBA, same for Len. It's just my opinion, so I'd glady take Zeller in that position, if Cho and Co. believe in him.

#47 Its The Milk

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:33 PM

The draft isn't crap, it's just not top heavy with superstar talent.

Four really isn't different from nine based on talent but their is a huge difference in potential from four to nine.

With guys like Zeller and Olynyk, you know exactly what you're getting. Then you have guys like Len, McLemore, Porter, and Noel who are already decent players but they have way more potential then a guy you are going to get at nine.

 

I didn't say it was crap I just said it was a "crap shoot" much like every draft really. The draft is an imperfect science.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

I'd also like to point out that Chad Ford is one of the worst mock drafters in the industry.

Last year Ford had the Bobcats taking Robinson, the Cavs taking Barnes, and the Kings taking MKG...

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

I didn't say it was crap I just said it was a "crap shoot" much like every draft really. The draft is an imperfect science.


Oops, my bad lol.

I didn't see the "shoot".

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:35 PM

Oops, my bad lol.

I didn't see the "shoot".

 

Haha you're fine :)



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:50 PM

A lot of mocks has T Rob going Bobcat..imagine what a disaster that pick would be..ugh

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:51 PM

A lot of mocks has T Rob going Bobcat..imagine what a disaster that pick would be..ugh


I don't want to imagine that.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:54 PM

That argument is a poor one (in my opinion) because if the draft is the same from number four to number nine, you can trade down (collect more assets) and get a player similar to the one you were after.

Think of it this way...

The BuzzCats trade down to 9 with their eyes on Zeller and Zeller gets drafted at 7... well if the draft isn't different from four to nine then Kelly Olynyk will be just as good of a fit as Zeller.

 

That's not my argument though. My argument is that Zeller is their guy. As in they believe Zeller is better for the team than anyone else. In that case, adding two marginal players is not the same as adding Zeller. You can't base your value on a player by what "experts" think their value is.

 

Just to be clear, the hypothetical is that Zeller is valued higher than the others. Adding a 7 to a team is better than two 5's.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

Also, I highly doubt we trade down. It would take something major for us to trade down, and Derek Williams + 9 isn't major. Cho said from the VERY beginning that we needed to suck and get high picks. You don't build a team adding late lottery picks. And (I mean this respectfully) as much as you want to say that there is not a difference in value between 4 and 9, think of it this way...every team has a big board of where they value prospects... there is a difference between picking your guy after 3 other teams and picking from the "scraps" left on the board after 8 other teams have taken their guys.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

Also, I highly doubt we trade down. It would take something major for us to trade down, and Derek Williams + 9 isn't major. Cho said from the VERY beginning that we needed to suck and get high picks. You don't build a team adding late lottery picks. And (I mean this respectfully) as much as you want to say that there is not a difference in value between 4 and 9, think of it this way...every team has a big board of where they value prospects... there is a difference between picking your guy after 3 other teams and picking from the "scraps" left on the board after 8 other teams have taken their guys.


That's what I was saying, I still think that the number four pick will get you a better player than the number nine pick.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:18 PM

That's what I was saying, I still think that the number four pick will get you a better player than the number nine pick.

 

Exactly. This is a weak draft as we all know, but it gets even "weaker" after the Top5-6 prospects. I'm gonna start finding someone to murder if I see the FO trade away the pick tomorrow night.




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