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NC on the verge of passing the worst voter suppression bill the nation has ever seen

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Republicans are all for spending if it was voted and passed by their party.

 

They are obviously more concerned at spending money to ensure "one person=one vote" than wanting universal healthcare to succeed.  Typical.   The real reason this passed is clear as day and you just have to look at who it affects.  There is just no defending that.

 

Pretty sure it affects everyone, but if you're speaking to certain demographics that happen to not have ID.  Have you taken the time to study what's accepted as ID and what the state will do to provide it?

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Pretty sure it affects everyone, but if you're speaking to certain demographics that happen to not have ID.  Have you taken the time to study what's accepted as ID and what the state will do to provide it?

 

Cutting early voting time directly affects democratic voters.  The numbers are out there, go look.  Democrats take vast advantage of early voting.   And obviously minorities would be the large group that doesn't have IDs, and we know who they vote for.  Don't be so dense.  Maybe people would have some respect for you if you'd at least call it like it is and admit this is purely to make it harder on democratic voters.  

 

And btw, there shouldn't be a limit to the voting process.  You are probably talking about the single greatest thing we ever did as a country, one of the best freedoms in the world, you spend whatever you have to to ensure everyone gets to vote.  It's one of those things that is you know, kind of important.  Like healthcare and education, both that seem to be on the bottom of the radar of a certain party.

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Georgia and Indiana had similar laws in place prior to the 2012 elections.  I didn't hear much gnashing of teeth about it. 

 

600,000 LESS VOTERS!!!  TENS OF MILLIONS!!!  WORST VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS OUR NATION HAS EVER SEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!

 

In case you haven't noticed, I'm making fun of you guys and your Chicken Little comments regarding how this is going to be the end of democracy as we know it. 

 

You realize the 600,000 registered voters is 9% of all voters right?  That 600,000 number didn't come out of thin air that came from the NC Board of Elections

 

Probably is a joke to you though because it doesn't pertain to you.

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as of this moment, how many registered voters out there do NOT have any form of adequate ID?

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Let's also see.

 

  • Barring young adults from pre-registering as 16- and 17-year-olds, which is permitted by current law, and repealing a state directive that high schools conduct voter registration drives in order to boost turnout among young voters.

 

Young people tend to lean democrat I believe.  We can't have THEM interested in the voting process and understanding how to go about this.

 

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Only permitting citizens to vote in their specific precinct, rather than casting a ballot in any nearby ward or election district. This can lead to widespread confusion, particularly in urban areas where many precincts can often be housed in the same building. 

 

Hm, who usually lives in urban areas?  Minorities.  What party do they usually vote for?  What locations in NC usually learn democrat (cities and the urban areas in those cities).

 

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I know it seems small, but food stamps (you know the thing that helps feed people) is just 1.5% of the federal budget, yet it causes you guys to lose your fugging minds.

 

Again, if you support the bill, don't talk about careless spending, if you don't kudos for you to sticking to your conservatism.

 

Food stamps?  No.  What causes people to lose their fugging minds are when food stamps are used and the food put into barrels and sent to the Carribbean.  When EBT cards are used in casinos and strip clubs and used to buy things other than food for their family. 

 

What drives people crazy is fraud.  Whether that's with food stamps, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, IRS (ITINs)...the issue is fraud.  I'm all for providing food to people that truly need it.  Just like I'm all for providing the ability to anyone that wants to vote to vote...legally. 

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Pretty sure it affects everyone, but if you're speaking to certain demographics that happen to not have ID.  Have you taken the time to study what's accepted as ID and what the state will do to provide it?

 

Wait?  So now you trust in the State government to run to run efficient program to accommodate all these people?

 

You liberal ninny muggin.

 

So for future reference, you DO believe the government can run efficiently and you are FOR frivolous spending?

 

Holy poo.  Republican hypocrisy is mind blowing

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Food stamps?  No.  What causes people to lose their fugging minds are when food stamps are used and the food put into barrels and sent to the Carribbean.  When EBT cards are used in casinos and strip clubs and used to buy things other than food for their family. 

 

What drives people crazy is fraud.  Whether that's with food stamps, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, IRS (ITINs)...the issue is fraud.  I'm all for providing food to people that truly need it.  Just like I'm all for providing the ability to anyone that wants to vote to vote...legally. 

 

 

You do realize white collar fraud trumps all of those things combined each year, and yet NOTHING is done about that.  No punishment, nothing.  Those are also the ones that put republicans into office (and yes democrats too).  However no one freaks out about those things.  Wonder why?  You should be more concerned about that than food stamps, but those people wear suits and work in big buildings, they are ok?

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Let's also see.

 

  • Barring young adults from pre-registering as 16- and 17-year-olds, which is permitted by current law, and repealing a state directive that high schools conduct voter registration drives in order to boost turnout among young voters.

 

Young people tend to lean democrat I believe.  We can't have THEM interested in the voting process and understanding how to go about this.

 

Or

 

Only permitting citizens to vote in their specific precinct, rather than casting a ballot in any nearby ward or election district. This can lead to widespread confusion, particularly in urban areas where many precincts can often be housed in the same building. 

 

Hm, who usually lives in urban areas?  Minorities.  What party do they usually vote for?  What locations in NC usually learn democrat (cities and the urban areas in those cities).

 

The high school voter registration drive I even did when I was in high school back in 1987.  I couldn't vote in a federal election until 1988 anyway and there wasn't an election that year....so it wasn't a big deal.  Just register when you're 18...hell...do it when you sign up for selective service.

 

As far as the precinct stuff...I don't accept the premise of the statement regarding precincts being housed in the same building and only applicable to urban areas.  This is crap and biased by the writer.  We've always had overlapping districts and precincts.  The voter should know where to go.  Maybe this is an opportunity for the Ds and Rs to GOTV to the right place.  Puts undue burden and accountability on little old ladies that have issues with change. 

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Food stamps?  No.  What causes people to lose their fugging minds are when food stamps are used and the food put into barrels and sent to the Carribbean.  When EBT cards are used in casinos and strip clubs and used to buy things other than food for their family. 

 

What drives people crazy is fraud.  Whether that's with food stamps, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, IRS (ITINs)...the issue is fraud.  I'm all for providing food to people that truly need it.  Just like I'm all for providing the ability to anyone that wants to vote to vote...legally. 

 

So food stamps that recent studies by the CBO have shown has very very small levels of fraud is bad, but spending on a voter ID laws based on a fraud that has been proven to barely exist is good?

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Wait?  So now you trust in the State government to run to run efficient program to accommodate all these people?

 

You liberal ninny muggin.

 

So for future reference, you DO believe the government can run efficiently and you are FOR frivolous spending?

 

Holy poo.  Republican hypocrisy is mind blowing

 

No...I don't trust government officials.  Which is why I trust putting more emphasis on technology, voter id, validation, and accountability.  What we have now is antiquated and looks like something similar to a 3rd world country.  Yes...I'm X and I live at (wait a sec...let me look at my address) and here's my X signature.  Where's my ballot. 

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So food stamps that recent studies by the CBO have shown has very very small levels of fraud is bad, but spending on a voter ID laws based on a fraud that has been proven to barely exist is good?

 

Yes...food stamp fraud/welfare fraud doesn't exist either.  Got it. 

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