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#25 Fox007

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:02 AM

How many good offensive coordinators would have signed with the Panthers knowing that Rivera was on the 'hot seat', and more than likely the Panthers only offered a 1-year contract? 

 

So you're saying it's JR's fault?

 

Can't argue with that, we hire a new GM and immediately hand cuff him.

 

This is not DG's staff/team.....at least not yet.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:03 AM

How many good offensive coordinators would have signed with the Panthers knowing that Rivera was on the 'hot seat', and more than likely the Panthers only offered a 1-year contract? 

 

Shula is indeed on a one year contract I believe.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:05 AM

How can we call it overly conservative when Newton dropbacks 37 times and we try alot of deep passing? The throws were there.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:12 AM

Zod, the forum needs a boost of confidence.  Its time to put the Giants on notice.

 

Let's put Rivera on notice
 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:12 AM

if its not one thing its the next with this team it feels like.... sure rivera had some bonehead decisions as usual, but lets face it, cam missed so many fuging big plays yesterday. might be the worst ive seen cam play ... not stats wise but as far as missing wide open receivers.

 

Ginn was wide open all day and should of had 150 yds and 2-3 td's . yet cam targets smitty 20 times when he had tight coverage all game ... ughh



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:38 AM

How can we call it overly conservative when Newton dropbacks 37 times and we try alot of deep passing? The throws were there.

 

effective playcalling is a huge problem..   And I think people are confusing "conservative" with "Jeff Davidson's obvious playcalls for dummys" playbook.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:47 AM

effective playcalling is a huge problem.. And I think people are confusing "conservative" with "Jeff Davidson's obvious playcalls for dummys" playbook.


You can still be ineffective at playcalling and not be playing conservative ball. We consistently tried to attack there secondary downfield, Newton dropbacked over forty times with most of them not being short or easy conservative throws.
I don't see how this game plan can be considered conservative.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:24 AM

You can still be ineffective at playcalling and not be playing conservative ball. We consistently tried to attack there secondary downfield, Newton dropbacked over forty times with most of them not being short or easy conservative throws.
I don't see how this game plan can be considered conservative.

 

yep, ineffective playcalling regardless...



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:28 AM

I'll take the play calling in the Seattle game all day over whatever that was yesterday.

And whatever you do call that against the Bills it was not conservative.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:35 AM

BTW what are you complaining about Zod? We scored 23 points. That wins a lot of games. The goal is to score points. Field position doesn't matter.

Well we scored points. After last weeks complaints you should be giddy about the offense and complaining about the D that gave up 24 points.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:38 AM

How many good offensive coordinators would have signed with the Panthers knowing that Rivera was on the 'hot seat', and more than likely the Panthers only offered a 1-year contract? 

 

 

This.

 

DG was forced to keep Hurney's coach, and only hire coaches on 1 year deals.  

 

This means the owner fully expects for RR to be fired at the end of the season, or sometime during.

 

This also means that JR has set up 2 HC's to be in lame duck years over the last 4 years.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

effective playcalling is a huge problem.. And I think people are confusing "conservative" with "Jeff Davidson's obvious playcalls for dummys" playbook.


but Davidson knew how to disguise o line problems. think back to the end of 2009, when Jordan Gross was still good. He got injured and missed about the last half of the season. The playcalling involved a lotl more rolling pockets and Matt Moore looked like a pro bowler as a result