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Cam is 12th behind aaron rodgers at 11. Lucks qbr is like a 75, Peyton manning is the one with a 91.9, hes best in the league by far. 2nd is phillip rivers at 81.

I don't know what you are looking at, but Cam's QB rating is 91.9 and Peyton Manning's is an unworldly 138.0.

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Who gives a flying 'duck' what anyone thinks about Cam.  Let them rip him.  As long as our OC keeps calling good games & Cam keeps playing like he is, it's better for the team anyway.  Look at the national media 'love' last year before the team had to play a real game & showed how much it sucked balls...the media is a bunch of bandwagoners if I've ever seen any.

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I constantly hear about Cam needs to improve on this and that, and not hear that same standard applied to other QB's in the league.  Everything the guy does gets scrutinized more than any other player in the league.  With that said, through the objective lens, last week had some horrible quarterbacking (when the Cam standard is applied).

 

Matt Ryan, L 34/54 (needs to improve accuracy, and had an interception)  what's his excuse with his stable of receivers?

Big Ben 36/51 pretty good, but had a costly turnover and fumble in a L.  2 turnovers! must play much better.

Shaub 31/49 not good, 2 int, horrible accuracy, and 2 costly turnovers in a game where they lost by one fg

Flacco 25/50, not good, 5 INT!!!! imagine if Cam threw 5 INT, he would be the headline story in all media

Cutler 27/47 3INT 1 fumble, 4 turnovers!!  wow, haven't heard a peep compared to what we would hear about Cam

Alex Smith 24/41 2 int!! they still won in a blowout, but against the Giants, this type win despite playing badly

Luck 22/36 1 int, Jags... nuff said, but he didn't play well but didn't need to

Tannehill 22/35 decent, but 3 int, 1 fumble 4 turnovers killed them... not being killed like Cam would be

Vick 14/27 no td, no turnovers... blowout loss to Den

Palmer 21/38 2 int, could have lost the game, but won... definitely not his doing

Stafford 23/35 decent 1 int, 1 fum, (against Cutler) still didn't play well enough for the win, they were handed the game

RG3 18/31 decent, played lowly Raiders, but definitely wasn't a good game, Cam would still be criticized for his play

Eli Manning... leading the NFL in int... we all know their troubles.. he has rings but def not receiving the Cam treatment

Gabbert 3 int... Jags

Russel Wilson 12/23 123 yards, 1 int, 49.7 rating... got the W, but lets see him receive the Cam treatment... crickets.  That defense won that game... oh what a luxury.

 

The point is, as these QB stats have shown, there is more than one way to win.  Many played horribly if scrutinized under the Cam standard, but I've heard nothing.  If Cam plays like any of these players, he's hearing it all week.  I left out Brees, Manning, and Brady since they are in their own league, Rodgers had a bye, and the rookies don't count. 

 

We are getting QB play that is good enough to win.  Cam is as good at the minimum, and better than most if not all of these guys, but has had a lot of bad luck, and tons of hate.  These guys are hyped up but don't deserve much of it.  Yes most have a lot more wins, but they are winning despite their failures. 

 

Innacuracy, turnovers, etc are plaguing these guys, but not a peep.  Keep pounding Cam, we're in good hands.

 

I Pie'd u because I agree 100%

 

But I will add, many on here feed the media's love for criticizing Cam when they sit and make so much of of him getting one INT, when it didn't even matter or questioning him for not throwing to every open receiver just because they're to see from their couch.

 

 

When I hear these folks in the media talk about Peyton Manning it's like his Receivers are his workers. They have to step up for him. same thing goes for Luck, Matthew, Sam, Brady and all the other "chosen QBs." When they talk about Cam, it's like he works for the Panthers Receivers. He has to do everything to make them look good. What is wrong with that picture?

Some of you feed the ridiculousness that has been surrounding Cam since he turned Pro.

 

Also, I noticed you didn't have anything to say in regards to Gabbert's play. Funny....

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Maybe Cam should be like some of the other QBs, like Brew Brees, and pad his QBR stats by throwing no matter what. But folks would be labeling him as "selfish and me first." Funny how that works....

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Ironically, Cam's rating is identical to Luck's.

 

Wish I had something witty to add, but I don't. 

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Ironically, Cam's rating is identical to Luck's.

 

Wish I had something witty to add, but I don't. 

 

 

With 1 more TD pass... in one less game.

 

Luck's QB rating is as high as Cam's because of his greater attempts/yardage.

 

I'll gladly sacrifice overall yardage stats for a higher TD/attempt stat.

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Maybe Cam should be like some of the other QBs, like Brew Brees, and pad his QBR stats by throwing no matter what. But folks would be labeling him as "selfish and me first." Funny how that works....

 

Rivera will never allow Cam to do that. 

 

That's another thing with Cam: All/Most of his stats are EARNED. That's more than what you can say, about so many of other QB's, especially the "Young Guns". 

 

The Panthers have been in the overwhelming majority of their games (many will say, because of Cam's presence), despite their losing record. And we all know, since Cam's first year (when the team was involved in high scoring games, and had no expectations) Rivera will always slow down the offense in the second half with the scantest of leads. Too many times, Cam will have 150 yds in the first half (OAK 2012, for ex), to end the second half with 70 or so, cause Rivera wants to take the air out the ball, cause he feels a 7-13 pt lead is enough to start the half. SMH

 

And the few blow outs that the Panthers experienced (either way), Rivera will take Cam out. 

 

Imagine how many more yards, wins and TDs (even), if  Cam had an offensive minded coach??

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Join the club, brother.

I'm game.

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After the 4th week of the season (not counting tonights game), Cam Newton is tied for 11th in the NFL in QB Rating with The God Child Andrew Luck with a QBR of 91.9. This is a higher QBR than Tom Brady, RG1-3, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, Sam Bradford, Colin Kaepernick, Joe Flacco, and Eli Manning.

Cam is also tied for 12th in TD passes along with RG1-3, Russell Wilson, and Eli Mannng, and more than Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, and Andrew Luck (with each of those QBs having played one extra game).

If Rivera/Shula keep opening up and being aggressive with this offense, Cam's year will be trending UP.

And that's not just good for Cam. That's good for the TEAM.

 

QB ratings are nice, but it's the wins that count.  3-1 (Colts) vs 1-2 Panthers. 

 

Of course, Peyton Manning, who is playing lights out with the Broncos, is tops of the QB ranking and 4-0!

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QB ratings are nice, but it's the wins that count.  3-1 (Colts) vs 1-2 Panthers. 

 

Of course, Peyton Manning, who is playing lights out with the Broncos, is tops of the QB ranking and 4-0!

QB ratings are individual stats while wins are team stats.  Quarterbacks can play great but their team can lose while other guys can play poorly and their teams still win.  You want to tell me Carson Palmer is a better quarterback than Cam because they are 2-2 and we are 1-2???

 

For reference Cam has 6 Tds and 2 Int and a passer rating of 91 in 3 games while Palmer has 4 TDs and 6 INTs and a passer rating of 69 in 4 games.   Yep wins sure tell who the better quarterback is.

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QB ratings are nice, but it's the wins that count.  3-1 (Colts) vs 1-2 Panthers. 

 

Of course, Peyton Manning, who is playing lights out with the Broncos, is tops of the QB ranking and 4-0!

 

Team wins are a different stat all together and deserve it's own thread. This thread is specifically about Qb stats. Stay on topic.

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