they at least have bodies on the d line.
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Posted by Fiz on 22 April 2010 - 11:26 PM
they at least have bodies on the d line.
Posted by Fiz on 21 April 2010 - 09:10 AM
Posted by Fiz on 21 April 2010 - 09:05 AM
dunkin donuts coffee is so superior it shouldn't even be a contest.
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Posted by Fiz on 15 April 2010 - 08:51 PM
Translated into real world speak that means:
"I'm a 58 year old man that cruises the park in my panel van"
im literally wearing cutoffs and yellow canvas shoes right now
Posted by Fiz on 15 April 2010 - 08:43 PM
that girl was margaret thatcher
Posted by Fiz on 15 April 2010 - 08:02 PM
Posted by Fiz on 15 April 2010 - 11:38 AM
Since I know you didn't read it, and you sure seem willing to write (copy and paste) a lot, I will condense my argument into a simple form for you to respond to. Remember, if you want to argue with me, you need to address the specific points that I'm making.
3-4 defenses are spreading in the league.
This is due in part to two things
1. The rise in 3-4 ready talent from college ranks, due to defenses countering spread offenses, and people naturally becoming more athletic and making them possible.
2. With the few exceptions of brilliant 4-3 D coordinators, it allows the defense more creativity and more possibilities to blitz, hopefully negating the advantage created by QB friendly rule changes.
For the Panthers, this means that there will be more 4-3 talent available as teams move towards 3-4s (or 3-1-3 in the case of arizona etc), much like Ted Washington in the 90s. Certainly today no one as good as him would make his way to 7 teams.
Posted by Fiz on 14 April 2010 - 02:59 PM
Well, no, not really, but Meyer has done quite a bit to popularize the spread offense in college football. For the uninitiated, the concept of the spread offense is to try to confuse the defense, or take advantage of athletic disparity. For example, there are far more wide receivers coming out of high school that can thrive in the spread than there are corners that can defend it. The idea is that a team's 4th wide receiver is better than the defenses dime back, and it has obviously held true.
Defenses have since adjusted. Defensive linemen coming into college are more valued for their speed than size. Of course, there are natural physical exceptions, but more and more defensive ends are being taught to beat tackles around the edge, DTs are being taught to shoot gaps, etc. This is just the natural reaction to how things operate.
Now let's go back to a dark, cold, stormy night in the 2003 playoffs. The colts offensive juggernaut was embarrassed by a patriots defense that talent wise was far inferior, especially in the secondary, but made up for it by completely mauling the Colts receivers. Everyone remembers that game.
Bill Polian, basically the supreme ruler of the competition committee, began reshaping the rules for defenses, obviously in an attempt to help his own franchise quarterback. They decreased the amount of yards a corner could press a wide receiver without being called for an illegal contact, and shifted the pass interference rules widely in the favor of the receiver.
On top of that, rules about hitting quarterbacks were drastically altered to protect the player. There are two reasons for this. The first is that quarterbacks are generally the face of the league, and injuries to them, more than anything, can completely destroy a team's year. Goodell is a businessman, and he knows this.
The second reason is that Trent Green almost died on the field. Well, not him specifically, but the rules to protect quarterbacks are necessary and honestly overdue. In the sixties, linebackers and quarterbacks were roughly the same size. It was also a much less accurate league. Now, quarterbacks are generally immobile, 6'5 targets depending on the proper function of like six very fragile ligaments to operate their offenses, while linebackers are 6'5, 240 pound mutants who run 4.5 40s.
So now that you have quarterbacks defenders are loathe to hit and wide receivers that can come out of their cut five yards earlier, you have the rise of complicated wr formations designed to confuse offenses and take advantage of talent differentials while doing so before a standard defense has any hope of disrupting the quarterback.
Speed has become the name of the game.
Teams are shifting to the 3-4 to counter this and to take advantage of the surplus of talent coming out of the college ranks. As far as players, 4-3 college ends are converted to 3-4 OLBs, 4-3 DTs are shifted to 3-4 DTs, SLB become ILB, etc. A 3-4 also gives you more creativity in theory. Instead of overwhelming a team with brute force, you can confuse them with speed. You have far more linebackers (the defensive position most inundated with talent) who can just go blitz happy. Now that these linebackers are also able to run with running backs, well, yeah.
Now here are the Panthers, a 4-3 that seems quite happy just to stick to their roots. Fox has always been a 4-3 guy and always will be, but there's always been one thing Fox's defenses have done: gotten chewed up over the middle and underneath. Why is this? Because it's the plan. And it has worked.
If you watch the way the Panthers play defense, they completely change once a team reaches their own twenty. Plays between twenties are opportunities for turn overs and for the other team to make a mistake. Corners use outside leverage to force wide receivers over the middle, where a traditionally poo ruining safety is ready to make their day awful (mcree, harris, minter, etc). They never get beat deep, and once they get in close to the end zone, where the field is smaller and there's less room for exotic routes, then they exert their force where they're strongest: the back seven.
So, to recap, we have numerous offenses transitioning to a spread style that emphasizing taking advantage of complex routes to confuse the defense and break big long running plays. QBs are having great success simply being accurate with the ball. Essentially offenses, due to rule and player changes, are shifting into a style that fits perfectly into what the Panthers want them to do. Pass all the time. Pass as much as you want. Go nuts between the twenties. Every pass is a chance for a batted ball, a fumble, a jacked up moment, and occasionally a missed block. We'll see you at the twenty, where Reggie Bush isn't going to overpower anyone. (speaking of, this is why the Panthers traditionally do so well against the Saints passing game).
But Fiz, if there are more players coming out that are fit for the 3-4, doesn't that mean there will be fewer players for the 4-3? In theory, yes, but remember in the nineties teams like the steelers made killings drafting players that didn't fit other team's 4-3. Numerous veterans will be jetted after the draft and training camp that fit our defense perfectly, and that's when the Panthers will pounce. Furthermore, there's no telling what slow 3-4 end that freefalls next friday and saturday is actually a perfect fit at UT for the Panthers.
Now what does this mean for the Panthers offense?
YOU CAN GOUGE 3-4 TEAMS WITH THE RUN MUAHAHAHAHA
now of course there are lots of exceptions to all of these rules and I'm just outlining a general trend and not hard and fast rules to live by. But whatever I was just thinking about this so I decided to write it. Now I'm going to go back this totally hot chick lying in my bed and maybe grill a steak i dunno
Posted by Fiz on 14 April 2010 - 12:18 PM
implying that this is the team the panthers will field, before the draft and before the post draft free agency period when the panthers traditionally (meaning what they've done the past three years you ignorant wadded up ball of shitty toilet paper) make their moves, is not only ridiculous, but indicates you might have a developmental problem, possibly connected to too many or too few chromosomes.
The idea that a team will be better despite not adding any significant players is beyond ridiculous to me.
jake can go contribute his interceptions somewhere else
Especially considering they lost several contributing veterans
diggs can contribute his old ass in st louis, where all other carolina linebackers go to die
hoover can contribute his broken down back to a retirement home
moose can contribute someone else's money to his bank account
kemo can contribute his medical bills to dan snyder
damione lewis can contribute his bench warming abilities to the patriots
there's no reason for the panthers to contribute money to overpaid and underperforming old people when they have cheaper youth on the bench jesus christ do you f**king understand anything
oh now you're psychic
and have a coach and gm that pretty much know they're fired after the season.
This sentence is structurally impossible and yet there it is.
No first round pick doesn't help either.
once again, before the draft and post draft free agency period when the panthers traditionally (that means the last three years you overgrown flagellum) make all their moves and find their key contributors.
Then take into account they need a WR badly
you misspelled atrocious
and the fact that every WR this coaching staff and GM has ever drafted has been absolutley attrocious
past results do not indicate future performance.
what in the name of god is your definition of clear?
and it starts to make a pretty clear picture of the future.
furthermore, what then does that make your definition of opaque?
oh poo you made a really good point
But maybe Matt Moore is that good. Then again, look at who he has to throw to. Even if he is that good it might not matter.
wait no you didn't
you suck at posting and I bet you're a bore to be around.
I feel comfortable going into next season though. I have no expectations. 5 wins would be a great year, imo. And if this team is as good as many of you believe, I'll be absolutely ecstatic.
Posted by Fiz on 13 April 2010 - 08:14 PM
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Posted by Fiz on 09 April 2010 - 10:49 AM
these moves were about getting ready to win post Fox......Fox knows it.
fuging get out
Posted by Fiz on 09 April 2010 - 10:35 AM
Call it whatever you want.....winning in 2010 is not the #1 goal for Carolina and is not what the moves this offseason will be about. Winning in 2009 was the main goal prior to that season. Spin or use whatever words you want....but that is pretty much a fact.
wow kids let's break down CRA's elite argument here
1. disregard all the evidence presented (call it whatever you want)
2. state your opinion without any evidence or support
3. declare your opinion a fact
4. wait for white noise poo posters to drown out anyone who would disagree with you
5. drink deeply from a 40 oz can of Ballz and stroke your neck beard
Posted by Fiz on 08 April 2010 - 06:09 PM
yup.. bulger = free, campbell = draft picks
it's really a no brainer on who is the better option
well, also I want a backup QB to mentor moore and walk him through his first preseason/training camp as a starter. a guy who has a lot of experience and success as a QB in the national football league. A guy who knows he no real threat to start and won't disrupt things.
Bulger is basically perfect.