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panthers55

Member Since 24 Nov 2008
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In Topic: Panthers claim OT Jonathan Martin

Yesterday, 10:20 PM

I am excited Martin is here. With our locker room and with Rivera's support there is every reason to believe that Martin can return to his former level. What a no-brainer. Who gets a potential left or right starting NFL tackle off waivers unless there were issues. I don't think that football has to include bullying and intimidation. Particularly from your own guys. I hope he can contribute and fit in. A win- win for everyone. What is there not to like?

In Topic: same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Yesterday, 02:33 PM

Simply put, you have to use something, and the passer rating is about as simple and impartial as it gets. There is just no perfect way to do it, but to use a stat that can be applied across the board, regardless of system, is about the best and most easily understandable. The QB has to be efficient regardless. Of course there are the other factors and intangibles that you may not be able to quantify, but some things have to be judged by the eye test and the gut.

It is notable that QBs on the list with the highest career passer ratings largely have the best winning percentages and/or championships (mind you I am referring to the relatively modern day QBs). I don't believe that it's a coincidence, and neither do the experts. One thing I will point out, which is a valid criticism, is that it doesn't take running into account, but it's really not about running (which we know adds great value to Cam's status). Moreover, I believe that people should give credit to Cam as being a better passer than some would lead us to believe.

Basically, I think it is just a way to put some more perspective into the argument that Cam is more good than mediocre.

http://en.m.wikipedi..._rating_leaders

But here is the wiki explaining the formula, history and theory behind it.

http://en.m.wikipedi...i/Passer_rating

Sure you have to use something but the passer rating is really only one comprehensive stat but not always the best one.  It uses elements such as touchdowns without accounting for the difference between teams that historically run in the redzone for example versus those who always throw the ball and dont have a power running game.  Yet the quarterback that throws it to score will have a higher passer rating.  As I noted earlier if one quarterback throws 15 screens, 2 dumpoff passes and 2 long passes versus another one that throws the whole route tree irrespective of system and personnel, which one will have a much higher completion percentage?

 

I can understand using it for a list to get relative ranking but when comparing 2 quarterbacks or comparing Cam to others it seems rather lazy to rely on a stat that admittedly has significant flaws and doesnt account for the new wave of more athletic quarterbacks who can run as well as pass.  And honestly that is a big part of his game.


In Topic: same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Yesterday, 08:28 AM

On and on.  One question?  How fair is it to compare even contemporaries on passing ratings when they operate in different systems.

 

 

 Are we really going to compare completion rates for a QB in a short passing WCO where many throws are 5 yard dumpoffs to backs in the flat or simply slants and crossing patterns with a quarterback running a vertical passing attack emphasizing the deep ball and intermediate to long out routes for example.   


In Topic: Notes, Quotes, and Video from ECU Pro Day

26 March 2015 - 10:30 PM

I want Hardy so bad on the Panthers it's crazy.

Every year I hope we draft a pirate but am always disappointed. I was hoping we would pick up Dwayne Harris on the cheap in free agency but am happy with Ginn given the chemistry with Cam. I would like Hardy because I think he is the speedy slot guy who can still get loose out wide and come back on a dime and leap up for the grab. When was the last time we had a quick guy who ran great routes who could make leaping catches. Other than Smitty of course. He is unique. But Hardy has the ability to maybe be Smith lite.

In Topic: Notes, Quotes, and Video from ECU Pro Day

26 March 2015 - 08:26 PM

so many ECU homers who are overhyping this guy


Just the opposite. Hardy is one of the most underrated guy out there. Frankly he deserves the hype. ECU fans are excited about him because they have watched him as a receiver and a returner. He might run the best routes of anyone in college. Anyone. He makes incredible grabs in the seams and can stretch the field. Best of all if he gets one of his mitts on the ball he catches it.

Once he learns how to get off the line on press coverage, he will be a force wherever he goes. And that is not hype.....