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Drafting Outside the Top 5

15 June 2014 - 02:15 PM

I feel like some people on this board have unrealistic expectations of the kind of players available outside the top 5 in the NBA draft.  There just arent sure-fire prospects available in the 8-10 range in the draft, you might be able to find a starter, but there are a lot of misses at this position.

 

Here is a list of the 15 players drafted between 8-10 over the last 5 years:

 

Starters: Brook Lopez, Demar Derozan, Brandon Jennings, Gordon Hayward, Paul George, Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Andre Drummond, Trey Burke

 

Rotation players: DJ Augustin, Jordan Hill, Al-Farouq Aminu, Jimmer Fredette, Terrence Ross, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, CJ McCollum

 

Busts: Joe Alexander, Austin Rivers

 

I think I was pretty generous with these groupings, and some of these guys are getting a lot of minutes because they play for poor teams who are hoping they will develop with enough playing time


Danny Manning is the new Wake Forest head coach

04 April 2014 - 11:09 AM

http://espn.go.com/m...a-danny-manning

Wake Forest has agreed to a deal with Tulsa's Danny Manning for him to become the Demon Deacons' coach, the school announced Friday.

"I am excited about the opportunity to be a part of the history and tradition of Wake Forest," he said in a statement. "I am extremely humbled by this honor and look forward to being the head coach and competing for championships both on and off the court."

Manning, who has spent the past two seasons with the Golden Hurricane, visited the Winston-Salem campus Wednesday after meeting with Wake Forest athletic director Ron Wellman earlier in the week in Indianapolis.

"We are very pleased to welcome Danny Manning to Wake Forest," Wellman said in a release. "There have been very few players who have had as much success on the court as Danny. He has played for and worked under a number of legendary coaches and he has been successful in his coaching career. We fully expect that Danny's coaching career will reflect the excellence of his playing career."

There will be a news conference next week to introduce Manning.

He will replace Jeff Bzdelik, who was forced to resign after four forgettable seasons at Wake Forest. Bzdelik was 51-76 overall and 17-51 in ACC play.

Manning, 47, was the top pick in the 1988 NBA draft. He played 15 seasons in the league, then joined Bill Self's staff at Kansas, where he was an assistant from 2006 to 2012.

He was hired by Tulsa in 2012 and led the Golden Hurricane to a 17-16 mark and an appearance in the CBI that season despite having the program's top two players, Jordan Clarkson and Eric McClellan, transfer.

Tulsa finished 21-13 this season and tied for first in Conference USA with a 13-3 mark. The Golden Hurricane lost to UCLA in the second round of the NCAA tournament.

Manning attended high school in North Carolina.


Rebuilding the Bobcats (Zach Lowe article)

25 March 2014 - 12:11 PM

Really good article talking about the team's decision to go for wins now rather than continue to hope for high draft picks and what motivated that decision.

http://grantland.com...rebuilding-nba/

The Charlotte Construction Co.

The so-called “Thunder model” of NBA team-building was never really a discrete, original thing. It had existed before; Oklahoma City was not the first team to bottom out and rebuild around draft picks. And it can only exist as a success if you nab a franchise-changing star with one of those picks.

The Thunder did something almost impossible to replicate in drafting an all-time great player in Kevin Durant at no. 2 and then remaining bad enough in the next two seasons to snag two more top-four picks. They famously nailed them all, with Sam Presti tossing in the Serge Ibaka selection at no. 24 just to taunt everyone else.

That’s not a model. That’s an unsustainable hot streak, and one that required some major luck.

The Bobcats watched from afar while their aging, expensive playoff team maxed out as first-round roadkill, and they hired Rich Cho, once of the Sonics/Thunder, to take his own shot. They traded away almost every relevant veteran, held back in free agency, and went an unthinkable 28-120 combined over the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons.

But they suffered the inverse of Oklahoma City’s lottery luck, falling backward in consecutive drawings, including a slide from pole position into the no. 2 slot in 2012 — a draft with one clear foundational superstar in Anthony Davis and a muck of unknowns after that. Close your eyes and you can still see Cho on television, taking the gut punch and wincing when the second-to-last envelope revealed the Charlotte logo.

So, Charlotte entered last summer with a choice: stink again and play for the 2014 draft, allegedly the richest in a decade, or accelerate the process by signing a quality free agent. Al Jefferson was the Bobcats’ target, and the choice his signing would represent inspired serious debate. The discussion wasn’t just about basketball. The Bobcats weren’t sure if they could afford to be terrible again. “It’s always in the discussion,” Fred Whitfield, the team’s president and COO, says of the role of revenue in free-agency decisions. “We felt Al Jefferson could help us win now, and that would clearly improve our business.”


USA Olympic Opening Ceremony Outfits

24 January 2014 - 08:12 AM

http://www.today.com...orms-2D11970728

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Apparently they were designed by a blind man who had the American flag described to him.

 

 


Drafting the wrong players, or failing to develop the ones they draft?

09 January 2014 - 09:19 AM

Reading through the thread on how Cho has done as GM got me thinking, is this organization simply missing on draft picks, or is it failing to properly develop players after they are drafted?

 

You look at a franchise like the the Spurs, and they seem to always find players deep in the draft who can come in and contribute.  But its not that they are just excellent at drafting, they put their players in a position to succeed and improve.  Kawhi Leonard, for example, wasnt much of a shooter in college (he was actually quite similar to MKG in that area), but after a couple seasons in San Antonio he is a legit threat from the corner, and developing that outside shooting threat has let the rest of his game improve as well.

 

That kind of improvement, particularly on offense, just doesnt seem to happen with players in Charlotte.  Biz still cant catch a pass, MKG cant shoot, Gerald Henderson still isnt a 3 point threat, and Kemba, while the best of the bunch, hasnt improved his distribution and still looks like the guy from UCONN. 

 

I think Clifford is a great coach, and is already up there with Thibs as one of the best defensive coaches in the NBA.  But I'm worried that if this team tries to focus on actually winning games (as they seem interested in doing), player development is going to be less of a priority at a time when it had never been more important considering how young this team is.


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