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#2233902 Cam Newton poised for breakout year - ESPN

Posted by rayzor on 16 May 2013 - 12:23 PM

wow...this is gonna get some comments.

Yeah, I’ll even step out on a limb and say he has a better 2013 season than Wilson, Kaepernick, Luck and RG III. 


Several reasons pop to mind, but let’s start with this -- Newton has more all-around talent than any of those guys. 

Luck can pass nicely, but opposing defenses don’t have to game plan for his running ability. Wilson, RG III and Kaepernick each have some throwing ability, but they aren’t pure pocket passers, and their big 2012 seasons came largely because of their mobility. 

Newton is capable of more than any of those guys, because he’s as mobile as RG III, Kaepernick and Wilson. At the same time, he’s as good a pocket passer as Luck.


i think it's true, though.



#2233766 Extending Greg Hardy now would be a big mistake.

Posted by rayzor on 16 May 2013 - 10:40 AM

So let him walk without getting anything for him?  You think that's a good move?


what would you get for him?


not much. a player in a contract year teams would rather just take their chances and let him hit the market.


people keep on whining about letting peppers leave without getting anything in return (even though we picked up a 3rd round comp pick), but the reality of it is there was very little chance that anyone would have given us anything of significant value for him. tagging him was a mistake. we got nothing out of it.


letting him go when it was obvious he didn't want to be here isn't an attractive option, but it was the cheapest one and it would have allowed us to spend money helping other areas.


gettleman isn't a guy that will play around. if a player isn't willing to cooperate, he's going to cut his losses and move forward. that's the way that makes the most sense.

#2233642 How to Deal with a Snake: By Patrick Willis

Posted by rayzor on 16 May 2013 - 08:30 AM


makes me jump every frikkin time. i could watch it 4 times in a row and it still gets me.

#2233623 Working with Beason today

Posted by rayzor on 16 May 2013 - 08:19 AM

ask him if  he thinks we'll be running a lot of nickel packages again and if we are and we're going with just two LBs on the field a lot like last year how are they going to split their time?


also, ask for recommendations on books or websites for nutrition, esp. shakes.


and thank him for being such a cool panther and let him know we appreciate his attitude and leadership.

#2233444 Extending Greg Hardy now would be a big mistake.

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 11:58 PM

I think the main problem people have with extending Hardy is that they think it is going to cost us CJ money. It's not going to cost nearly that much to keep him.


exactly. gettleman isn't going to pay over market value and right now the best DEs are signing deals that average about $5mil a year....unless you're dumb enough to tag them.

#2233429 Extending Greg Hardy now would be a big mistake.

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 11:32 PM

it all depends on what you want to pay the guy. 


right now you could sign him to a deal similar to what dumervil got which would have been super low for a good DE any other year, but near the top in todays market.


3/24/2013: Signed a five-year, $26 million contract. The deal contains $8.5 million guaranteed -- a $7.5 million signing bonus and Dumervil's first-year salary. Another $9 million is available through escalators and incentives. 2013: $1 million, 2014: $1 million (+ $3.5 million option bonus), 2015-2016: $4 million, 2017: $5 million, 2018: Free Agent


last year cliff avril turned down a 3 year/$50mil deal cause he thought he could do better if he held out. he had to settle for a two year, $13mil deal. he wasnt counting on it being the buyers market that it is and next years looking like more of the same...or worse for players. 


if hardy was handed a deal like dumervil got he'd be crazy to turn it down, even if its pale compared to johnson's.

#2233209 How to Deal with a Snake: By Patrick Willis

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 07:53 PM

keek wouldn't have needed the rifle. i mean the snake would only have been coming up to worship him and then after viewing upon keek would have instantly died, gutted itself, and thrown itself on the grill for a tasty evening snack.

#2233205 ESPN's Football Outsiders red flags the Carolina Panthers WR position

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 07:51 PM

Funny how me and a few others have been preaching this since before the draft and now EVERYONE outside of the Panthers organization is saying the same thing.


some of us have been saying this for years. did the same thing about getting a real QB with a future rather than one that was just likeable and that you'd like to grill out with.

#2233198 How to Deal with a Snake: By Patrick Willis

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 07:48 PM

SNAKES!???!?!?! ON MY PORCH???????!!!?!?!

#2233042 ESPN's Football Outsiders red flags the Carolina Panthers WR position

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

we can always find one next year...unless there is no aj green or megatron available when we pick in the teens and then we'll just have to wait till the next year when we're pretty sure a sure-thing elite WR is available when we pick.



#2232934 Deangelo Unleashed - Win this photo

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 04:14 PM

An old man and old woman met after both became residents at a retirement home. They began to get pretty friendly, and really enjoyed each others company.

After about 3 weeks of getting to know each other, the old man said to the woman, "I know we are both old and can't do much anymore, but if I pulled out my *****, would you hold it?"

The woman did not see what that would hurt, so she said she would. Every day for the next month the couple would sit in the park by the lake and the old woman would hold the man's *****.

One day the man didn't show up at their regular meeting place. The woman became concerned and set out to search for him. Further down the shore she spotted him sitting on a bench, with another woman beside him. She walked up to the bench to find his ***** in the other woman's hand.

This upset her very much and she yelled at the old man, "We have been together for 2 months now, I thought we were getting along just fine. Now I find you here with this other woman. What does she have that I don't?"



#2232437 Gettlemen continues to get criticism for not bringing in a WR

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 09:57 AM

no question we need a number one receiver. no question there wasn't a valid option to draft one this year, or sign one in FA.


100% agreed.


i know there's little we could have done to improve things more than we did. we were stuck in a really bad situation in regards to the cap and with a GM (and a former HC) who really didn't have a clue how best to address the passing game, esp. WR.


we would have been fools to pass up star. a WR in the second? over short...up for debate. short makes the team better, but i think a WR would have as well. i guess short's impact will be better than a WR we would have selected...at least in the short term, but even that's up for debate.


point blank, the team is better now than it was when gettleman first got the job. it's better in all aspects. we've addressed quite a few things that really needed to be addressed, but it doesn't make it all better. we are still behind the eightball in regards to those couple areas...that much can't be denied.


what's frustrating is that there is very little that could have been done to change it more than we have and making bigger strides to change those areas will taken away from areas that we improved. it was a six of one, half a dozen of the other type deal. robbing peter to pay paul. i hope we do a lot more to fix and address the OL situation and bring in more receiving talent because what we have might be enough to get us by for now...but it's hardly anything that is going to make this team the best it can be. screw getting by...i want this team to be dominant and until WR and the OL and even coaching improves, those areas are in either the short term or long term liabilities.

since we haven't done enough so far, we're going to have to do more soon...unless we are just happy being a little better and waiting 300 frikkin years for rome to be built.

#2232280 Deangelo Williams Restructures Contract

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 08:22 AM

Not before next year.  I guess you missed the part about his dead cap space goes from 9.6 to over 14 million if he is not on the roster in 2013. He will be here this year no matter what. 

oye...good point there.


i guess he's retiring a panther. I'll take it.

#2232278 Deangelo Williams Restructures Contract

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 08:20 AM

So let me get this straight, did DeAngelo just take a paycut?

yes, but he also ensured himself a job for the next few years at the same time. 


this wasn't some hurney type restructuring where you just push all the money back so you don't have to pay now but have to pay.  lot more later....this was a legit move to make the cap situation better now and in the future while locking up a very good RB for several years or providing some quality trade bait (which dwill's new contract does).


this just has 'win' written all over it.

#2232263 Deangelo Williams Restructures Contract

Posted by rayzor on 15 May 2013 - 08:12 AM

Hell, if all our 5th and 6th round picks do is give us the leverage to shave millions off our cap for the next few years they were picks well spent.  That's more productive than 98% of 5th and 6th round picks turn out to be.

good point and good strategy if that is what we were doing.


barner and klein make williams and beason expendable. that's not to say they are as good or better, but both are and will be solid players who would be able to get the job done....and save us money to improve other areas.


i expect beason's contract to be re-done soon.