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Ron out here talking about "we're good" with backup QB's lol

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This is absurd. This is what happens when you keep a coach too long. They get too comfortable. Too content.

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We spent a 3rd round pick on a guy who looks like he probably should've been a UDFA. We made a legit effort to upgrade the depth. Let's be honest, our chances of securing a better option at this point are slim.

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Ron’s job is on the line this season. Can we all stop crying and let it play out? I know every fan thinks that if your starting QB goes down you should have a Nick Foles waiting in the background, but that is extremely rare. We win or lose this year with Cam. I expect a bad season for our competition as well if Matt Ryan, Brees, or Winston goes down. We are less than two weeks out and we have a vet, and two young qbs we are developing (who already know Norvs complex playbook). 

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Not sure it's great for team morale to announce publicly 2 weeks before the season starts, "Yeah we know our backup qb situation sucks, but what you gonna do?"

He has said in his interviews that he's not happy with the performance of the backups in the preseason. But at this point, you're probably better off rolling with what you have, hoping Cam stays healthy and the backups get better with time in the meanwhile and if that fails, figuring out plan B next offseason. Bringing in someone last minute is either going to be a qb who can't even make the preseason roster of any of the 32 teams who doesn't know the playbook and has no guarantees of being any better than what we have or we have to give up valuable draft capital for someone else's backup who still has to learn our playbook and has no guarantees of being better than what we have. 

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Losing your starting QB is going to doom 99.9% of teams in NFL history.  This is not even a thing.  Who is the last backup QB in panthers history that you thought would be able to lead us to the playoffs? 

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44 minutes ago, beastson said:

This is absurd. This is what happens when you keep a coach too long. They get too comfortable. Too content.

What is absurd is expecting him to say anything else. Even if Hurney was on the phone as we speak Ron would be supporting who we have until the new guy got here. Do you really believe everything you read or hear?

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Its not about winning or losing. Obviously you lose you starting qb your season is done, but atleast get a back up qb who can complete a pass over 20 yards. Derek Anderson could. He also could win a game or 2. These 2? Forget about it

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8 minutes ago, beastson said:

Its not about winning or losing. Obviously you lose you starting qb your season is done, but atleast get a back up qb who can complete a pass over 20 yards. Derek Anderson could. He also could win a game or 2. These 2? Forget about it

Derek Anderson was 2-2 as a starter, his only wins being against the McCown led 2-14 TB Bucs (2014).  Is that really a ringing endorsement?  Grier/Allen could have won those games.

In 2016 he also started two games.  Against the Falcons and Bucs, and lost both.  

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1 minute ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Derek Anderson was 2-2 as a starter, his only wins being against the McCown led 2-14 TB Bucs (2014).  Is that really a ringing endorsement?  Grier/Allen could have won those games.

In 2016 he also started two games.  Against the Falcons and Bucs, and lost both.  

Grier/Allen not beating any regular season opponents this year.

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57 minutes ago, beastson said:

This is absurd. This is what happens when you keep a coach too long. They get too comfortable. Too content.

We have 2 QBs not named Cam under contract who have been in the system for over a year. That's not a bad place to be for backups.

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1 hour ago, beastson said:

This is absurd. This is what happens when you keep a coach too long. They get too comfortable. Too content.

   The last time he said we were “good” at a position, we signed Eric Reid the next day. 

   Just sayin...

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49 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Ron’s job is on the line this season.

Most every coach in the NFL is a 2-14 season from being fired.

Here is how I see it:  If Cam goes down, we are better with a conservative, game manager like Allen or Grier because we have 2 solid RBs (CMC, Scarlett fever, in my opinion), a pair of good TEs, and a solid WR corps that can break a game open on a checkdown pass.  We never had that before.

We just played the Pats close when our QBs were terribly ineffective.  Since there are no star backups in the league (Earl Morrall has retired, I think), we need to go into a game management mode.  Develop the young guys.

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