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One of ya'll posted it. Screenshot in one of the threads. I quit paying years ago for that stuff. Did Bryce Young outplay Trevor Lawrence Sunday Icege? Yes or no.

Their employees were hired to work in house and now ran a draft for thr GM and does who knows whatelse. Completey normal stuff. No chance of that relationship producing any unethical behavior whatsoever...and didn't PFF grade this draft highly?

Discussed elsewhere... Just taking his hands off doesn't mean a miraculous recovery is on the horizon. Still have to do the work, and in this case the work is an extremely hard thing to do in even the best of circumstances.

It's strange that folks are still caught up on BTTs when the methodology has been shared and we have the game film to back it. This isn't to say PFF is without fault. Their are definitely instances where a grade is questionable, but I've found that more often than not that the film backs the grade. I'm hoping to get through the all-22 for the defense today so I can see what they saw that I didn't in regards to Moehrig. I'm still in denial over his grade, but I've seen a couple of clips as well where he was out of position (and another where a Jags player put him on his ass with a chip).

Story was that Morgan was the only one in the prior setup who was willing to tell Tepper he was wrong rather than just rolling over.

No they didn't. Bryce's Week 1 QB grades and where they rank against other QBs for week 1: Offense: 71.1 (19th) Passing: 71.8 (14th) Rushing: 56.2 (30th) Fumble: 29.1 (30th) Again... Where in the world are you getting that PFF had Bryce ranked as a top-10 performance last Sunday? You're out here beating the "PFF is fraudulent" drum while doing nothing but sharing fraudulent info yourself.

That's pretty much always been my preference. His dad was a perennial backup, as I recall. Liked what I saw of him in week one after a rough start.

also, let's not worry that they ranked him #9 overall to the avoid the maybe everyone was also bad logic being applied. Let's just stick with how high of a grade they gave him. Because it's not just where he was ranked. They gave him a strong grade for the day he had. so again, if Bryce Young's performance on Sunday equals a solid grade in your ratings system (he was really bad)......then something is off with your grading. I got no need to argue how wild that rating is they gave him Sunday. It just flat out is. If you can't smell something is off with PFF at times, then nothing would convince you. It's been discussed for years that whatever they do over there (while good at many things).....often spits out some real bonkers stuff ( I don't know the why). BY week 1 highlights how bonkers they sometimes get.

Hmmm I heard that before about another freak we drafted

This. We’re not winning anything in the next 2-3 years anyway. Rebuild (again) and maybe by 2030 we’ll be ready to compete again.

TBH, Nussmeier looks like the best of the group at this point.

I think the smart thing to do would to bring in a vet starter, and sit whatever rookie, regardless of who it is, and let him sit a year.

So more people to fire when this crew gets the boot is what I am hearing. It makes the PFF grades more understandable too.

...has the base qualifications to get him in the door. But once you start looking at the other factors... concerns arise

When I read a lot of threads and posts on here, I believe It's possible some of you might be on the PFF payroll.

Ohh big time throws is a PFF generated stat. They use it in their grading system and it's been around since thr 2010s. Damn no wonder PFF was always all over the place. It's completely subjective and presented as a fact lol

we have a bunch of PFF people at Carolina now in the analytics department. A bunch of old articles about how valuable those folks have been to Dan Morgan in shaping the team the past 2 years. Analytics certainly has it's place. But I think it can also be taken to hogwash levels in sports.

So, Bryce Young?

He’s actually nothing like Anthony Richardson, but I see where you were going with this. He is a much more polished passer and can actually throw the football. The disclaimer is that he isn’t going to be a day 1 NFL starter.

Show me the ability to read defenses and make good decisions... Show me accurate passing... Those two things are the price of admission. You don't even get in the discussion without them. Take the pool of guys who qualify under those criteria as your base set and start evaluating everything else from there. But if you don't have those two things right up front, it's a non-starter.

What other football games did you watch during Week 1? Also, are you saying top-10 overall or for a certain grade? Because... well... they didn't. Offense: 71.1 (19th) Passing: 71.8 (14th) Rushing: 56.2 (30th) Fumble: 29.1 (30th) So what exactly are you talking about? Where does it say he had a top-10 performance last Sunday at QB?

Agree, sadly. He’s gonna need some time to sit and if the Panthers draft him he’s absolutely screwed out of the gate.

I do wonder what convinced the team to draft by PFF this year and then to have those grades come out after week 1 just makes it all look like a new low for everyone involved.

What I know is if you are selling me that your "ratings" rank Bryce as a top 10 performance last Sunday at QB.......then something ain't right. Everyone can hypothesize for fun as they wish but something isn't right with how you go about your grading there. Bryce sort continues to stand out as a redflag in how they got about whatever they do there. Week 1 highlights that so well (and it was spoken about last year often)

15min just to wait for the usual "BTT is a fake stat" nonsense I can get in any Huddle thread? k