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Yeah but you know if you are a borderline player the margins are razor thin. Getting a boneheaded penalty like that is exactly how you get walking papers in that position.

I watched it--it was stupid, but not that violent. Sanders vs. a big TE is probably a bad business decision on multiple levels. However, he was probably going to be cut anyway.

Such an insane and unhinged way to get cut.

Wait a minute....they don't actually fuging HAVE a 4th yet??? How are we to believe this rumor about a 4th being offered? They quite literally don't have one.

Too bad for the Failcons...boohoo

Yeah and very little of it was down the stretch last season. That's literally what the ACTUAL SEASON is supposed to solve for us. Was Bryce 1.0 or Bryce 2.0 the aberration? There is no point in getting your panties in a wad about the preseason. We got a few days before we get to see the real thing and start finding out.

Where's the magic? Did something happen during pre season that I missed?

Stupid. Take the pick and use it to add a cheap rookie next year or package it to try and acquire some LB depth. If Bryce Young taking the next step as a first overall pick hinges on 35 year old Adam Thielen he's already cooked.

Curious to see who makes it instead of him.

https://x.com/polymarketblitz/status/1959013921991672053?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐎𝐑 #Panthers want a 3rd for Adam Thielen, #Vikings willing to give a 4th. Standstill has gone on all day with no movement. Minnesota is now looking at other WR options

Also to be abundantly clear. There is a ton of regular season game tape of Bryce Young looking just as flustered and skittish as the way he did in preseason against the Texans so if your position is it's irrelevant well that's too bad because sorry the word is already out to every defense we'll face.

I think you are just being an old man yelling at the sky. I don't give a fug about joint practices either. Lace em up and that's when it counts. Not fuging practices. Practices are for the Ian Thomas's of the world.

Dalton is more expensive because of the void year. Not much but more expensive.

Coincidentally I've had people tell me him looking good in a joint practice is more important than preseason. So maybe you guys who are so eager to be sycophants should pick a position.

LMAO. Are you in full seriousness talking about PRESEASON??.. Dude, come on. Who gives a fug about preseason even a little bit? If he starts off this season like last season, then I will be calling for his head the same as everyone else. But....PRESEASON????

In the interest of getting this thread back on track though... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/buccaneers-464-pound-rookie-desmond-141352443.html That is a LARGE man.

Are they not both on 2 year $8 million contracts? Not trying to be smug, just trying to see what I’m missing.

The year 2025? Maybe you want to join us? Furthermore his rookie season is statistically one of the 5 worst on record in at least 2 decades and we had the worst passing offense in the league.

https://x.com/polymarketblitz/status/1959453265617424793?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐎𝐑: There is a belief by some that WR Jimmy Horn Jr will likely be cut by the Panthers. An Adam Theilen trade could open the door for him to stay.

Lol. The Texans are literally one of Bryce's six career NFL wins. WTF are you talking about?

Yeah, I mean it is a statistical fact and also part of literally a player evaluation. Winston has literally lost dozens of games in his NFL career due to crippling TO's. It's just who he is. Look, it's fun when those insane throws work and he is leading you back from some crazy deficit. But those success are rare. It's why his career GWD count is so low. He's fun but he is fundamentally built to lose games. If you are talking about a backup QB, you are literally already losing in the first place. That's how you see a backup QB and that's overwhelmingly what they tend to do. Rookie QB's almost always benefit from veteran QB's. Same as literally any other position in the NFL. Why do you think that you so often hear that from the playera themselves? As for Bryce NEEDING one, no he sure as poo shouldn't this late in the game. But he also shouldn't have needed this fuging long to get his fuging footwork straightened out either. Yet here we are.

Comfortability is the primary reason. They don't want to hurt Bryce's confidence. But I say if his confidence is that fragile that healthy competition which makes everyone better is enough for them to keep making Andy Dalton rich then Bryce was never going to be the guy anyway. Give me the QB who sees the competition amongst his peers and uses it to take it to the next level. Instead we get the guy who comes out looking like a deer in the headlights against the Texans after we've done everything possible to appease him. Definition of complacency.