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If you tell another QB you're being brought in but Bryce is the starter no matter what, Dave is being forced. Hypothetically, we trade for Howell and in camp he looks like prime Tom Brady. He's riding the pines because Bryce is the starter and that's just the way it's gonna be. Dave's checking out. Why? Because that's not what's best for him or his team. If Dave is the one doing the forcing, then that is a symptom of an even bigger problem which is what many of us have been saying, no one knows what the hell Bryce is as a QB. You only lock in your QB when you have to evaluate him at all costs. If we still need to evaluate in year 4, then the QB competition needs to be wide open.

Yeah, I don't want anything to do with that Lawrence contract. Woof.

He still has another year before the 5th year. Bring in a steady vet. Let Andy go. Draft one in 3rd round like Kirk Cousins or Rudolph Wilson was. Hope they hit if Bryce sucks. If that doesn’t work. Draft one in 2 years in the first round. Move on from Bryce. Let the vet or 3rd rounder you got start the year and bring in the 1st round qb when ready. Thats your succession plan if Bryce sucks. Worst thing is game manage it for next year and still draft the next one in 1st round the following year.

Nothing lol. Sorry I stepped away and responded to the wrong post.

All the Bryce stans have always said we should forget 2023 existed as it's unfair to look at it. Now you want it just for the sake of showing the jump from practice squad worthy to backup worthy? ok. noted. the reason you compare the starts (12 vs 12) and omit the 2 token garbage time appearances in 2024, those skew the per game averages. For example, from a per game scenario, it would be logging him as playing a NFL game with -4 pass yards in a game and treating that as a game. which is why you look at starts (12 vs 12 games) 2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers 2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers which clearly isn't "pretty much improved" in basically any of the primary categories of production. It's worse in all the big ones. Yards, scores, and turnovers.

How are you going to do a mock workout the final draft rankings? I would like to see the top 250 players listed myself and see who might be around at our picks. Thats a lot of fun for me even though I never get them right. I struggle to find an accurate top 100 much less 250. I won't pay for the online stuff because im too cheap.

I think he quoted the wrong person. You weren't talking about Trevor Lawrence in that post.

Just because I shoot an 80 on the golf course one day doesn't mean that's what I'm capable of on a regular basis. That's just the day everything came together perfectly. That's an outlier. 250 YAC is most definitely an outlier. The best way to evaluate is to remove his best outlier and his worst and evaluate everything that remains. That gives a more accurate picture of the season as a whole.

I don't think he's being forced.

What are you talking about?

And yet his numbers are better than Lawrences' and you stated you would trade for Lawrence and his 50M contract. Why?

Then I would expect Dave Canales to take the path of Frank. You cannot force a coach to be tied to a QB no matter the results. Frank checked out because of this. Dave will too.

50% of the time.

They can tell them whatever they want but it better be the best qb plays.

Heh Side Note: Why the hell is it called "Preparation H" anyway? It's supposed to be a medication, not what you use to get something ready. And given where it's used, I'd really like for the manufacturers to explain to me precisely what they want to "prepare" that part of me for?

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I'm just leading you to keep typing for no reason lol. I have no point to what I'm saying Scotty. - To the thread-Bryce is very likely getting that 5th year option exercised. And it is nothing to overreact to on the fandom's end. It's not meaning we're giving him a glowing endorsement for the next 4-5 years, it's basically ensuring him we aren't cutting the cord. I just don't see a scenario like the Giants did with Daniel Jones unless Bryce completely falls apart and shows nothing similar to the Falcons or Rams games here on out. It seems like we'll exercise it, see how he shakes out next year with the growing arsenal and defense around him. If he really finds a groove, could see a contract worked out next year. If we implode next season, he will be gone. 2027 is the year we either land a new QB or will know going in we've got Bryce here for quite a few more.

The "room"? Yeah, I expect them to hunt for a better backup. I also expect whoever they sign will be told they are not competing for a starting job.

preparation?

I'm glad I chose that game at the beginning of the season to go to. I hope that game still has significance by the time it gets here.

Kyler Murrays preferred method of offseason preparation...

He has? Because he is still the same inconsistent QB that makes me wonder if the offense is gonna be bad or good. Never felt that way with Delhomme or Cam. During both their prime when they were on the field I felt we had a chance. Can’t say that with Bryce. Also comparing Bryce to Delhomme is not a good comp. Kinda like saying well Warner was 28 when he got his chance. But Warner actually showed elite traits before he was even with the Rams.

Yeah, I truly believe that we haven't gotten any smarter as a franchise despite this recent success.

Consistent is the operative word here. He's shown he can be good. He's shown he can even be very good. But as far as consistency, that's where I'd ask the congregation to turn in their Bibles to Revaluation 3:15