Joe Bear

He's showed a good bit of progress over the last few weeks, but I'd rather see if a team could give up a first- or second-round pick than double down. Maybe, just maybe, Morgan won't ship him out with a third-rounder for a conditional 2031 sixth. He probably will get that return if he trades him. So on second thought, hell, keep him.

He's the GM of a 2-7 team and he's made some awful decisions -- with more coming before the trade deadline. But that's a hell of a lot better than being the GM of a 1-8 team, and he's a better drafter than Fitterer. I'll give him that. Now, prove he's better at making trades than any GM in NFL history other than Fitterer, and we'll be talking.

Credit where it's due: Bryce Young did a great job in leading the Panthers on a game-winning drive. It's almost as impossible to type as it is to believe, but I'm glad to see it. He got the ball to Legette in the clutch, Legette caught the ball, Coker played well, the defense made a stop when it had to and Chuba scored the winning TD. LOVE beating the Saints! LOVE Charlotte FC beating Orlando City, too! A perfect weekend at the Bank!

The Saints, who beat the Panthers by almost 50 in September, lose to the Panthers in November. I love it so much!

Maybe he can focus on leaving the Carolinas, and inflicting his idiocy elsewhere.

It's truly insane how Young wasn't ready for NFL defenses and he just gave up halfway through his rookie season and never tried again.

If we're lucky. Probably AT and a 3rd. Thielen, a 3rd and Horn for a conditional sixth.

"Buckaroo." That's good. Mature beyond his years, clearly. Brian Burns was a far more justifiable asset to trade for a good return during the 2022 season, than DJ Moore (who was shipped out the following spring). Do you disagree? Let me know. I'd have traded Burns before McCaffrey, and I wouldn't have traded Moore at all. It's possible, despite what Morgan and Fitterer display, to turn down a bad offer. Thirty-one other teams are aware of this. That brings me to Johnson: if your "leverage" is "he wasn't gonna re-sign," you have no leverage; which, as you said, means you shouldn't make a trade, right? Do you disagree? If so, quickly adjust your prior stance. Giving up No. 1 in 6 and a standout WR, even if he's petulant, for No. 30-32 in 5 = demonstrably stupid. Keep the comp pick if he re-signs, or see if he can be convinced to stay with a new non-Shedeur QB.

You attempted to make up justification for two stupid decisions. Call your cope whatever you like. It's still coping. Immediately discrediting every claim made against Morgan based on "no clue with regards to the inner office operations" isn't quite the maturity flex you think it is. None of us are privy to the inner workings of this team, and the flailing decisions speak to the high possibility there are no inner workings. And honestly, man, I wish we could justify all his moves, but some of them straight-up can't be. That trade was just bad, and you're not going to hell if you accept it as such.

- co-signed the McCaffrey trade: That doesn't count! - turned down the Rams: That doesn't count! - co-signed the Young trade: That doesn't count, either! - Young over Stroud: That doesn't count! - fleeced by the Giants: That doesn't count! - traded valuable picks for OL to pick an injured RB who's yet to play: That doesn't count! - gave up the team's best WR for nothing: He had no leverage! See? Nothing.

The Panthers had no leverage, so they shouldn't have handed him away for free. They gave him away for an embarrassing return. Just like McCaffrey. Just like Burns. There's also the inconvenient truth that the Panthers turned the Bears into a playoff contender with one trade. Those things happened, whether we want to pretend they did or not.

You're doing a Morganesque job of reading what's in front of you. I said I'm not rooting for him to fail, nor was I lashing out at you; if you make a poor claim, I'm within my bounds to respond to it. That's sort of the purpose of this forum. If I point out a guy did something poorly, I'm not "being a hater," but since you've already got your response cued up regardless of what's actually said, go ahead and call it "lashing out" again.

Fans are fed up with this organization's endless string of failures. And, while Morgan's less than a year into his current position, everything he's done is barreling down the same path shat out by his predecessor. If we're just pointing out this alarming lack of discrepancy between the performances of two GMs, it's really not hating. He's just proving to not be a good hire. And, hey, it's alright, because whoever Tepper hires next will, at best, only suck a little bit less. I don't mind people who are optimistic and hope Morgan turns out to be better than he's been thus far. That'd be great. None of us are rooting for him to fail. However, the embarrassing pattern of decisions persists. And it's not a good look.

The Panthers' beat writer called the Johnson trade return "a warm bottle of RC Cola." If you're quick to discount every bit of news that disagrees with your view, maybe your view is the problem. Morgan deals himself a bad hand and he deserves every bit of criticism for it. Fitterer was the worst GM ever, but Morgan is a very similar brand of awful. Certainly when it comes to trades since 2021, Morgan's body of work makes him at best, only one of the worst negotiators in the history of North American professional sports. That's simply pointing out the numerous shortcomings he's put on display. If I point at a guy who shot someone and say "he murdered a guy," I'm not hating on him -- I'm pointing out what he did. If Morgan wants to not be labeled an incompetent clown who makes 31 other franchises better, simply stop being an incompetent clown who makes 31 other franchises better. Or, wait until Tepper makes him the fall guy after Evero.

Yeah, and I do think that taking your kids to a game can make the experience more fun regardless of result.

Dan Morgan is an awful GM (and so was Scott Fitterer).

Even more convenient: there's nothing but dark times.

35-3 Saints would be an improvement. Bet has been placed. Give us a few more of those roll-outs to the right for 3 yards on 3rd and 14!

He showed more stats-wise, and in the eye test, just last Sunday than Mingo has in his career.

I've looked up this team's trade history since 2021 on PFR, and it's impressive. They've helped build the Bears into a playoff contender and restocked the talent pool at several other stops. In the meantime, they've gotten hilariously fleeced in 27 of 32 total trades (and all but one since 2022!), and destroyed their salary cap in the process. That's a level of front-office incompetence that would make Rachel Phelps jealous.

This is seriously what I want Morgan to do: 1) Never, ever, make another trade. Ever. Don't even pick up the phone. There are good negotiators, bad negotiators, and then Dan Morgan is 18 steps below them. 2) When negotiating salaries with free agents, walk out of the room when their agents arrive. Don't come back in until they've left. 3) Tell the Teppers that Shedeur Sanders will dazzle them at dinner in April, and he'll give them all the positive publicity they crave in May and June, but he'll be another Bryce Young. Don't draft him. 4) Again, when a team pitches a trade related to the draft, take every phone in the room and bash it with a hammer until it no longer works.

I'd imagine Morgan's safe as well. Successful, on the other hand, is a 0.0% possibility. Full Blutarsky.

This. There's no light at the end of this franchise's tunnel. They'll pick first for the next three years and have nothing to show for it but an extra third-round pick courtesy of Negotiatin' Dan, and two guys on other teams' practice squads.

I'm with you. Ward will be a great player...once he falls in the Patriots' or Titans' laps. Sanders or whatever other schlub Nicole gets a crush on in April will be a sideline correspondent for ESPN in three years.