Joe Bear

I’ve rarely ever been more sure of anything than losing out — but how can anyone say with a straight face “Bryce hasn’t improved, but Canales has and he’s masks his flaws”. You have to be so out of touch with reality to put one way above the other when discussing those two.

Source: Belichick's agent.

We should just enjoy the final full season of the Canales Era right now.

The refs’ fault on Tuesday, Bryce Young’s fault on Sunday. Lather, rinse, repeat.

It’s not easy to begin with.

Saints have such a weak schedule. They literally play college teams from here. Falcons will somehow BS their way to 8 wins and that leaves us P4 as usual in the standings.

Wild how you can be leading the NFC South on Dec. 13, and end up finishing last. The Saints are gonna win out and finish with 7 wins and beat us on the tiebreaker, Falcons will win 3 more and our guaranteed 3 losses bag another last-place finish. This season was better than I expected for sure, win-wise, and there were some awesome upset wins — but finishing last while the Saints are on the rise and go from 2-10 to passing us in the standings removes a hell of a lot of goodwill I had for this franchise.

Weird way of spelling "Sean Gilbert".

Nah I've been to both many times. I'm a big Canes fan as well. Nothing topped the Panthers in the 2015 playoffs. I mean, 2006 for the Hurricanes probably was right there with it, but I was in school. Canes games are fun as hell (and stressful).

Canales likes taking risks (on and off the field). A lot of times this year (LAR for instance) they pay dividends. Tonight's another example of when they don't. 7-10 has earned him another year at least. Still got: - 1 heartbreaking, NFL-made-every-call-to-screw-us-and-someone-choked loss - 1 comfortable ass-kicked loss - 1 somewhat close loss to end the season.

It wasn't electric from 2010-18. Good teams create electric atmospheres.

Offense is not good and often easy to shut down, but there's been more days where it was functional than the defense, which REALLY needs to get called out more here as well. This is a historically bad pass rush. Say all you want about spending on OL (good teams do this), but Christ, there's just nothing there in terms of pass rush. Other teams' backups just flatten our guys on both sides of the ball too often.

I don't think anyone thinks he's not A problem, but acting like he's the only problem on the team and in your life is a bit much. Spread the blame a bit. He didn't miss a tackle today.

The Saints haven't tried to tank in 25 years. They're not good but they're a bad matchup for the Panthers, no different than the Panthers were a bad matchup for the Packers. Doesn't make the Packers worse than the Panthers, just means they don't match up well. Hammer the Bucs and Seahawks ML, kids.

Imagine losing to the team who did that...and you're the 1 seed in the NFC. Or the 2 seed in the NFC.

No, it's that they're never going to be good for one reason or another. They've never going to have a winning season again, and it's for multiple factors: poor ownership, poor players and poor coaching are big, but the NFL also doesn't want nor need the Panthers to ever be a respectable outfit. Ignore the other team's record 17 out of 17 games and take any win as if it's the Super Bowl, because no one will ever see this team have another winning season. This was our last shot at not losing 10+ until the mid-to-late 2040s.

Seven wins is not embarrassingly bad. It’s the low end of mediocre (I’m literally guaranteeing losing out) but it’s also the best season this team will have for another 20-30 years. So it’s nice to be mediocre for once and not a complete doormat until next September.

Is this the same guy who said Kon Knueppel was trash and a bust five minutes into his first Summer League game? Stevie Wonder could see a pattern here.

Considering hardly ANY QB gets shut down by this defense I’d bet on any QB to shell it, including Jack Plummer.

Where is this vitriol for Horn getting smoked or the defense blowing it? I get you’re hyper-obsessed with Bryce Young to a wholly unhealthy degree (and may in fact assassinate him before week 18 if given the opportunity), but today was one of those where the blame CAN be spread. He’s not good but neither is the defense or most anyone on the roster. The coaches also suck.

Guys, even the Shedeur fan, just empty your bank accounts on the Bucs, Seahawks and Bucs. This team is an offseason away from its next win.

To be fair I bet Bryce puts up 300 on this poo defense.

Only three more losses to go before it’s finally over. The last great chance we’ll ever have at not losing 10 games. Gonna put up 50 straight 10-plus loss seasons, but this one at least had some really fun moments and upset wins along the way. On to the draft

Did that days ago. But you can bet I'm enjoying two days of being in first place in December! Might be another decade before we enjoy it again.

Alabama?