DaveThePanther2008

That logic means the forum would fold. No one in this forum has the power to call plays, draft players, fire coaches or anything else. What is an acceptable topic?

Yeah, cause we need room for one more tanking thread.

That was a terrible kick. He's lucky the Bears didn't score on that last drive.

In these drafts how many QBs were selected before that winning QB?

I agree, at that point if we had Wilson or Lawrence at our pick it would have been insane not to take them. That said, how many of huddlers would be screaming bust on either of them. I say the book is still out on both. I've seen Lawrence make some sweet throws and than just throw a terrible Int. Same with Wilson.

Logical. College play can really over/under emphasize the ability of a player. You see it every year. 2022 the best QB in that draft just might be Bailey Zappe.

And you made the point of not tanking for a QB. We drafted Horn in 2021 who at this point is better than any of the QBs in that draft.

duplicate post, sorry

No, I'm not but I am saying that Tanking isn't the answer.

Hahahahahaha Everyone, every season, if we aren't doing well, wants to tank for a QB. Oddly, I've never heard you tell the other 4 million post on tanking your educated response.

Everyone was screaming for us to Tank and get a QB in 2021. Before I start I want to say that yes, it is possible that all or none of these guys will eventually get it. Right now, I'm not impressed. Let's look how each is doing. Lawrence looking spotty at best. Shown some flashes but not showing he's a franchise QB, yet. Wilson looks like he might be turning the corner but clearly not Franchise Material Lance, is already hurt but in his limited time at QB wasn't showing much. Fields is definitely not going to be the answer. He only makes throws that aren't uncontested. Jones is/was probably the best of the 5 and he might not get his job back from Zappe. My point is, tanking for a QB is not a sure thing and we should play to our ability and let the chips fall as they may. If we end up with a top 5 than so be it. However, if we drop out of the top 5, it's not the end of the world.

Our defense held up pretty well in most of our games until the end playing a college version of defense. Expect to see a better defense playing NFL style defense. LAR offensive line is in shambles and Stafford, though he won't admit it, is hurt. Depending on what "reset" McAdoo is talking about we could look totally different on Offense. This would be like playing a team during the 1st week. I'll stick with the positive attitude and leave the Debbie Downer to you.

Absolutely but you can also state that Boston College isn't some standard to rate a good OC or not. They are mediocre at best in the ACC. Now if he was terrible with a school that actually has great recruits it would be hard to argue. Chudz has history of running a powerful offense in the NFL. Based on the OP topic Chudz wouldn't be a bad choice. Are there other choices, obviously yes, but staying on topic. I like Chudz.

Yeah and Boston College is loaded with talent. Obviously, you forgot what he did here. He'd be much better than McAdoo.

If we somehow pull off an upset this weekend. That could really energize this team. It's all going to come down to our offense coming out of the closet and actually putting some points on the board. Our division isn't a runaway just yet. Tampa has 2 loses and could have been 3 had the refs not saved them on that BS sack.

Why is that such a bad idea? I don't know if you remember our offense with Chudz. Had we had a defense those teams would have been playoff teams. Cam's first two games were over 400 yds passing and Cam was dynamic back then. Shula was supposed to take that offense and simplify it and it was a disaster. Chudz wasn't much of a head coach in Cleveland but I'd take his offense in a heartbeat over McAdoo.

I would love to see Chudzinski come back. They said his offense was very complex but damn we put up some points. We actually have a defense to compliment that offense unlike we had in 2011 and 2012.

I would like to see an OC that has had his moments as a head coach and realizes his forte is OC and not HC. This would hopefully keep him from moving on. I know many like to think they are HC material but maybe we could find one who won't move on after one or two good seasons.

Point made, now tell me who is a surefire HOF QB in the 2023 or 2024. Each one of those names minus Stafford are headed to the HOF one day. You can't keep losing to get the top QB in the draft. It's a crapshoot. You have to do your homework and hopefully nail a good QB. Outside of the Mannings and Stafford the QBs you listed weren't top 5 picks. A good head coach is going to sit down with the GM, like Payton did in New Orleans, and go the best route available for a QB. While our next head coach may not hit a home run like New Orleans did with Brees. The next head coach may find that alternative piece until a permanent solution can be found. Carolina did a good job finding Delhomme. He had a great run with us and outside of Cam's years probably the most exciting QB we've ever had. Plus, he took us to the Super Bowl.

Wilks will bring Professional Football back to Carolina. The deal with Arizona, IMO, he got shafted. You don't hire a new coach because your football team is playing well. Not many new HC are going to come in and become SB contenders in one season. While his offense was terrible, I believe his defense was very good. I just think Arizona dumped him because they wanted Kingsbury and regardless of how good or bad Wilks was they were going to can him. So, IMO, I don't take much of what happened in Arizona as a true gauge of Wilks ability to coach. I think if he wins 6 of our last 12 games, he MIGHT get the interim removed from his title. I would expect a young OC to come in and take over from McAdoo regardless of our final record.

Yes I know. We can always hope and dream. Luke is still young.

Contemplating a return? It's good to see him around again. I wonder what he really thought of Snow and Rhule.

That's my concern too. His injury a couple of weeks ago was a simple play. He didn't get destroyed by a defender and still hurt himself. When, not if, he gets sacked by one of these great DE in the league he's going to get crushed. No matter how good he may be if he's on the sideline recovering from injury it doesn't help your team much.

We need to watch this week's game. Tennessee plays Alabama in Knoxville. I've seen spots of their games and he looks good. I am sure his stock will rise quite a bit if he plays well this weekend.

I am a huge fan and am not ready to watch every game just to lose. I guess I understand the players more. Many of these players only have a couple of years to play. They didn't work years and years to get to the pros to lose. They will fight every game, win or lose. I want to see us play hard and be in every game. If we lose, so be it, we're not better than that other team. But, what happens if we reach .500 by December. What I am happy about is Rhule is gone. Maybe we actually start playing better. I've never given up until we are mathematically eliminated. Nothing changes this year.