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Bahahahahahahahahaha, I love this answer, I was at the game, we're poo, even when the score is within a possession, we don't / can't put a drive together outside the opening one.

Brady did play well, the sacks were from the IOL, there was nowhere to step up. Those aren't on Moton or BC.

To be fair, most of this staff is Rhule guys so even firing him now who would you promote. He's going down with the ship, and I feel it will be reset in the off-season, let the GM do his damn job. Rhule had two years to ''build his program'' it's in the same state it was to end last year, the OL is bad all over again, and he's throwing the starting QB under the bus again. Anyone watching unbiasedly could argue the team has regressed under him. We had DJ - 1K +, Robbie 1K +, Curtis Samuel 1K plus combined yards. + ,and Mike Davis 1K plus combined yards on offense last season. Now the only one sniffing that is DJ, and some fans have the nerve to critique his ability when he's been the only real consistent threat on offense this year. CMC stays nicked up, and the staff keeps trotting our Erving like he's ''All NFL'' the one time I saw Deonte Brown on the field he was man handling a guy, and even if Christensen is inexperienced, he can't have less upside than Erving. This offense has just been mishandled completely, and to be fair the defense is fairly impressive and would likely be even more so if the offense was not so inept.

Can't do all that and draft Howell with no 2nd, or 3rd round picks, with guys like Gilmore, Jackson, and Reddick on the re-sign dockett. Getting a 1st round QB needs to likely leave people's minds. We NEED to trade back, and accumulate more picks inside the first two days of the draft. Our best bet is keeping Cam on a 1-2 year deal, he needs to be the bridge, off-load Sam (even if that means eating 3/4 of the guarantees) Use the newly acquired trade capitol to address the OL on the first two days of the draft, and with extra picks if a Malik Willis falls due to ''needs time to develop'' we can afford to do so. But Rhule needs to go, he showed his true colors ''not wanting to hurt Sam's feelings'', versus sh****** on Cam each and every chance he gets, it's clear he NEVER wanted Cam, though Cam's resume' at the NFL level still usurps Rhules and he knew it. This ''program'' crap is not an NFL ideal that can be realized.

Take the 1st step, I think Tep clears house this off-season as far as Rhule and his hand picked staff.

Its hard to see WHEN YOU HAVE AN AGENDA

Because people are stupid, this teams needs a real coach, and an OL.

This is the only logical option, we don't have a 2nd or 3rd, we need to trade back and acquire multiple picks. Spend money on a PROVEN tackle if available, and use the picks to supplement the interior OL where there's usually more options, unless a Tackle falls to our new pick via trade back. Since this is logical, we'll likely draft a LB'er.

Yo, Matt Rhule has got to be the pettiest f****** coach in the NFL, when you're not one of ''his guys'' this is the treatment, he handled Teddy the same way late last season too. Matt has got to go, he's not an NFL caliber coach.

Because these coaches suck at coaching.

Walk ins because no one EXPECTS him to run are NOT impressive. Sam is not good, has talent but not food, those INTs from clean pockets, fumbles, and meltdowns. No defense respects his presence. At the bare minimum Cam brings that, and we're not at the bare minimum with Cam.

This imo sums it up. Rhule's a control freak, ad Cam was the ONE player at the time that had more sway with the roster than the coach. NFL players respect Cam, he has a SB appearance and MVP to his name. Rhule came in with a nice college resume but nothing that would compare to Cam's at the professional level. Therefore to attain that power / voice Cam had to go, and Rhule screwed up QB TWO SEASONS IN A ROW.

His success there is more a product of the fact that they are likely on the field a lot on defense. He's a LB'er making tackles, he's still average in coverage and is a two down guy. We're not missing out on anything special, he's a solid run stuffing guy. Carter showed enough while Perryman was hurt / unvaccinated to win the job. It's odd people keep bringing him up like he'd make a huge difference here.

Moore and Anderson were why some thought Darnold could be ok to good here, two seemingly legit 1K threats, alongside a true three down runner. And then the coach forgot about this thing called an offensive line, and has made it worse with ''questionable'' position assignments. Note - I was never on the Darnold train, I wanted Fields*

It's simple, Rhule don't know how to evaluate OL, same as Ron.

I think this was probably set up similar to college, ala ''passing game coordinator'' was Brady's roll at LSU, my understanding is he was not the ''play-caller''. So I imagine that was the goal, every person provides the feedback, and sets aside responsibility to culminate in the gameplan on Sunday where the OC calls things based off of the group's work during the week.

The OL is down to 3rd, and 4th string guys that are UDFA's in 3 spots, there were not many better OL to sign over Erving and Elflein. KC's OL looked like a dumpster fire in the SB for the SAME reasons...injury. Aside from Okung, on paper the OL was penciled in to better. The defense is going to look bad if the offense can't muster a TD, football is complementary, and right now guys are pressing and trying to do too much. The 3-0 start got everyone, staff, roster, and fans sipping the kool-aid. The defense should honestly be even better heading into next year. IMO Jackson is gone, and you have -- Gilmore, Horn, Abouye, Henderson as the rotation, the front seven could use a better off-ball LB'er to pair with Shaq, and I'd like to see a more cover safety added to allow Chinn to play down in the box / match TE's more often. So when you have a bad QB (Darnold), and a banged up, now starting UDFA's all over the OL, this is to be expected. My issue is why after Brady Christenen looked good at LT, why did we bench him for Daley, who is just IMO a better G, than T? Was it other depth concerns, or something else?

I can't back this take up, the only regression was Quarterback, the defense from his 1st season to now is night and day, if we attack legit OL in FA (as we have cap now) and Fitt can parlay our first into a late 1, and a 2nd, and a 3rd (we'd jump up to 9 total picks just like that) to offset the Sam trade and continue to address OL, we're on to something. There's enough Cam left for a 1-2 season stint while the rest of the offense is addressed, and set up for a future 2023 pick.

Has he done that at any level, I don't remember reading anything about him that refenced offense or even defense as an area of expertise. He seemed the ''organizer'' type based on all the information around the time of hire.

Felt like the MAJORITY of the board was not a Brady fan, team makes a move to move on and now you scoff at the replacement as though we can just go out on the street and hire an OC that runs an offense NO ONE in the building knows. Ya'll funny, hard enough having Cam learn on the fly, but we supposed to install a new offense in Week 13, the lack of common sense here is overwhelming at times. If there's to be a change it will be this off-season, IMO we need a proven play-caller if Rhule is retained, and if anything promote Nixon to Assistance OC if the plan is to groom him, I doubt he proves himself as the interim OC, and it also sounds like it's ''group effort'' among the offensive staff to some degree. Either way, this my team so I'll be dialed in.

Any rational fan KNEW Sam was a ''talent'' upgrade at the QB spot, not an actual ''upgrade'' at the QB position. Whether it was ego, arrogance, or pride someone or a group in this building thought they had the remedy, it's not just throw based on progressions in the NFL, it's not that simple, and I think they are starting to realize the QB can't just be ''one of the 53''. The QB needs to be able to stand at the forefront and lead the 53, that is modern football, you can't hide behind a good defense / run game, especially with a limited OL.

Some of the OL woes seem ''fixable'' in the sense of better than what we've been fielding. Christensen is the most athletic guy we have, yet we keep playing him inside, why? Daley, is 330 lbs, versus Brady at around 303 lbs, why not go... Christensen / Daley as the LT & LG combo, a 3rd rounder over a former 6th rounder?

Is it the Saints....then we have room to make fun of it.

If you think Cam is the issue after 3 weeks of practice playing behind: LT - Daley - 6th Round Pick // 3rd string LT LG - Mike Jordan - 4th Round Pick // Waiver signee // Penalty waiting to happen C - Pat Elflein - Former 2nd turned JAG // Journeyman // 2nd String C RG - John Miller to UDFA Trent Scott former 3rd string LT RT - Moton - Only solid to good O-Lineman we have Then you just can't see it, Mahomes looked PEDESTRIAN in the Superbowl when their OL was down to backups that were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string with Remmers. This is the NFL, you cannot ignore the OL, and they (KC) attacked it this past off-season. This staff went about things backwards by starting with an ALL DEFENSIVE DRAFT -- then selecting only ONE pre-day three OL pick (Christenesen). I can't fault FA acquisitions due to what was available. You can't run, or throw without sustained blocks, and this OL just can't do it.