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Robby (Robbie) Anderson changed his name and his #
CPantherKing replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Have the Panthers finally found a #1 WR? Oh no. It's just Robby going into the NFL protection program. -
The 2022 draft had 3 QBs who will make their way into a franchise QB position for the next 10 to 20 seasons. The 2023 draft has 1 QB who will be a franchise QB for 5 to 10 years.
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Also, my off ball 1st round LBs I wanted since I have been a Panthers fan... Derrick Brooks, Brian Urlacher, Thomas Davis, and Shaq Thompson. Turns out 2 are in the Hall of Fame and 2 were Panthers LBs. Consider that 3 of the 4 have been defensive leaders for SB defenses. Now, I add Devin Lloyd to that list. Other LBs I would have drafted in the 1st round are Ray Lewis, Lavar Arrington, Terrell Suggs, Shawne Merriman, Derrick Johnson, Jon Beason, Von Miller, Luke Kuechly, Khalil Mack, and TJ Watt. I would have traded down for Lloyd, but I would not have missed out on drafting him as a championship franchise leader and playmaker. I won't just take any LB in the 1st round. Thompson is my worst 1st round LB grade. All of these LBs are better than any franchise 1st round OT with success. Always take these kind of LBs in the 1st round and opt for an OT later in the draft if there are any worth starting as a possible franchise OT. 2022 was a rare draft loaded with OT talent all the way to the 7th round.
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Like my choices of David Bakhtiari, Terron Armstead, La'el Collins, Trey Smith, Jon Runyan, David Edwards, Orlando Brown Jr, Billy Turner? Those are the OTs I wanted over the past 10 seasons in mid to late rounds. Only 2 OTs I wanted that did not make it in the past 10 seasons. The Green Bay Packers and Kansas City Chiefs front office consistently line up with my OT evaluation. I'm not the scouting department that pumps Cade Mays, Dennis Daley, Deonte Brown, and Brady Christensen. Christensen is the only one I kept on my list as a possible 6th or 7th round pick but considered him a career reserve OL. The problem is not mid to late round OTs. The problem is the front office that evaluates them and keeps them on a list/board of players to draft. I evaluated Ekwonu as a bust at OT and possible franchise OG. I hope I am wrong. The only tackles the Panthers have ever taken that were on my list are Jordan Gross, Travelle Wharton, and Norberto Davidds-Garrido.
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Chances Matt Corral starts Week 1
CPantherKing replied to ENCPantherfan2's topic in Carolina Panthers
If Corral does not beat out Darnold to start week 1, then Corral can expect to be replaced by Bryce Young next year. Corral has no other option than to start and win in 2022. -
Panthers fans are going to be disappointed. Need MLB and depth at a few positions. Panthers most valuable pick up available in the draft with the greatest impact was Devin Lloyd. Considerable drop off after him. Could have gotten Darian Kinnard, Zach Tom, Daniel Faalele, or Bernhard Raimann for OT. Could have gotten a number of mid to late round QBs who will produce as well If not better than Corral. Panthers also need several championship level leaders. CMC, Shaq, and Chinn as the only capable leaders is not enough. Jamming Moton and Burns into captain patches doesn't make them champion level leaders. Missing the foundation of true leadership will always lead to struggles and missed playoffs.
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Nick Foles is a successful and proven QB. The issue is QBs like Nick Foles, Joe Montana, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Tom Brady are not QBs anyone wants until they have at least 3 rings on their fingers. The flash and cash crew would rather have an exciting QB that can't produce game winning drives when the defense, playmakers, and coaching fail to do their job.
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The elite 11 is known for finding journeyman QBs or complete busts. The success rate is extremely low, but for some reason GMs and scouts keep going back to Dilfer for QBs. The young QBs from the elite 11 in the NFL now tend to stick around for 5 years like a Darnold or Rosen. Fields is going through the ringer in Chicago now. I'm sure he will receive the Darnold treatment when Chicago gives up on him in a couple seasons. You have a better shot at finding an undrafted QB to take you to the SB since 1999 than an Elite 11 QB.
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What if Rhule turns out to be a really good just being a coach?
CPantherKing replied to Fan01's topic in Carolina Panthers
Rhule will have to be really good. The rest of the NFC South is outperforming the Panthers front office in roster building. Panthers have the weakest roster. Hate it, but it's the truth. I also consider Rhule, McAdoo, and Snow as the weakest group of coaches in the NFC South. If you took Mariota, Glass, and Dalton, you would have a better QB room than Darnold, Corral, and Walker. -
They picked up Kaleb Eleby. Expect him to compete with Drew Lock. They comp Eleby to Russell Wilson. This draft will have late rounders and undrafted QBs outperforming the top media hyped combine QBs. Another interesting battle to watch is Kenny Pickett v Chris Oladokun. Steelers drafted 2 QBs. As for the undrafted QBs, you will have Jack Coan developing under Matt Ryan and Aqeel Glass developing under Tom Brady. Cole Kelley is in camp with Wentz, Heinicke and Howell. I would not be the least bit surprised if Kelley ends up being the better QB out of that camp and ends up with the Saints if Washington does not keep him on the roster. The Saints had their eye on Glass and Kelley and ended up empty in the rush for the undrafted QBs. Reminding me of the 1994 QB class. Shuler, Dilfer, Nussmeier, Miller, and Klein were the overhyped combine QB bunch. When the lights came on and games mattered Gus Frerotte and Glenn Foley were the ones who took the field on game day that were drafted in the late rounds. Dilfer struggled with the Bucs. The successful QBs from the 1994 draft did not hear their name called in the draft and now we remember their success more than any of the drafted QBs - Kurt Warner, Jeff Garcia, and Jay Fiedler. Expect the 2022 late round and undrafted QBs to have more success than Pickett, Willis, Corral, and Howell.
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Saints wanted Aqeel Glass. Thought they had him locked and in comes Tom Brady and the Bucs to give him a better offer. Glass is the one QB who had to take time to weigh his options before signing. Saints, Rams, and Bucs were among a handful of teams who wanted him in their camp. My top 2 QBs since Mahomes are now in the NFC South with Ridder and Glass. I hope I'm wrong on Glass because it appears the GOAT will be training the QB I believe is the next GOAT, and Ridder isn't far behind. Hate to think I'm going to have to watch Glass and Ridder battle it out for the next 2 decades to win SBs while Rhule continues to build that decade long foundation.
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You start the QB that gives you the best chance to win. If that ends up being Darnold after a full camp, then you should consider Corral worse and no better than a career backup. A franchise QB will grab that starting spot and never give it up.
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Got it. I heard them say our 2 5ths and next years 5th for the Commies 4th when it was announced. Still see better value LBs on the board so I don't like it, but not as bad as I thought.
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Same reaction from the Gettlemagic crowd when I blasted the Funchess pick/trade and listed getting Stefon Diggs, Devin Funchess/Chris Conley, and Darren Waller instead of just Funchess. Funchess is the only one no longer playing in the NFL.
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If you could read I said INVESTED 3 picks in 1 player. Obviously you have to invest at least 1 pick into 1 player. Don't get anything back. You get 1 player.
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Well he shouldn't be depth if you invest 3 picks in him. Could have gotten 3 LBs this year for depth. Jack Sanborn, Diego Fagot, and James Houston or one Brandon Smith? Smith needs to start in 2 seasons or this is a waste. Even worse than the Devin Funchess trade. At least Funchess started for a bit before he was flushed. Investing too much draft capital into individual players like Darnold, Corral, Marshall and Smith to even build a foundation. Horrible front office.
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Did Will Grier have this...
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Was Matt Corral the Target or a Panic Pick?
CPantherKing replied to chknwing's topic in Carolina Panthers
This was a Tepper pick. Had little to nothing to do with the front office. Tepper has ties to Corral and wanted him as the franchise QB. -
Round 3 Pick 94: Panthers Select Matt Corral - QB Ole Miss
CPantherKing replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Athlete. YES Passer. YES Clutch. YES He doesn't show the leadership qualities to command a championship team. Easily antagonized and cocky. Not good at sitting and learning. Personality wise (using Panthers comps) he is a cross between Steve Smith, Rae Carruth, and Greg Hardy. Anger management issues, narcissistic, resistant to authority figures, highly competitive, dominant when winning, destructive when losing, and business/self-interest minded. He will succeed in a player led culture that allows for freedom of expression, lack of structure, and loose discipline. Bret Michaels management team and Corral's Mom control his image/PR. He is in a relationship with Raine Michaels Bret Michaels and David Tepper have a relationship going back to their days with the Steelers. This is a David Tepper pick. He will need a couple handlers early in his career. -
Round 3 Pick 94: Panthers Select Matt Corral - QB Ole Miss
CPantherKing replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Just another reason Matt Rhule should be fired. Is this the logic he surrounds himself with in hires, or is he just gaslighting everyone? The window for a QB to produce playoff/SB success is 2 to 5 years. 7+ years is the outlier/exception. Brady won a SB in his 2nd year. Wilson won his SB in his 2nd year. Mahomes won his SB in his 3rd year. Rodgers won his SB in his 5th year. Flacco 5. Foles 6. Eli 4. Roethlisberger 2. Peyton 9. Aikman 4. Rypien 4. Montana 3. Simms 8. McMahon 4. Theismann 10. Then you have QBs not drafted by their team and SB losing QBs. Favre 5, Warner(STL) 2, Delhomme 1, Stafford 1, Burrow 2, Newton 5, Kaepernick 2, Brady(TAM) 1, Warner(ARI) 4, Garoppolo 3, Goff 3, Ryan 9, McNabb 6, Grossman 4, Peyton(DEN) 2, Johnson 2, Gannon 4, Hasselbeck 5, Collins 2, Dilfer 1, McNair 5, Chandler 2, Bledsoe 4, O'Donnell 5, Humphries 3, Kelly 5, Elway 4, Williams 2, Woodley 3, Marino 2, Esiason 5. Draft a QB and give them 4 seasons. Sign a FA QB and give them 2 seasons. If you like a QB you draft and they show zero success in 4 seasons, part ways, take a shot at another QB for a few seasons, then go back and get the QB you drafted and give them 2 seasons to produce for a second chance (Fran Tarkenton/Nick Foles). Not difficult. History has proven this formula with these 3 QB scenarios. Rhule doesn't have a clue or a plan with a foundation under it. -
Two decade ago was the last time this happened in the NFL draft with 1 QB going in the 1st round a GOAT was born in the 6th round. Two decades before that the previous GOAT was born in the later part of the draft. The next GOAT at QB is coming from this draft!
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Round 3 Pick 94: Panthers Select Matt Corral - QB Ole Miss
CPantherKing replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Matt Corral's comp is Jim McMahon/Johnny Manziel -
They want to use Sam as a bridge for Corral. Sam doesn't want to be used as a bridge and they told Sam he is the 1 and has a year to prove he can be the franchise QB. They have no intention of keeping Darnold. They just want to use him. Trying to keep Darnold from holding out and forcing a trade. Fitterer keeps messing up. Fitterer is hoping Darnold's agent or Darnold himself is not paying attention to the Fitterer slip ups on revealing their true intention. What are the chances Darnold or his agent is paying attention to these press conferences?