SmokinwithWilly

Any given Sunday. Like I said, I wouldn't consider them a fraud. They're a team that's suffered a lot of injuries. We've been fortunate not to have suffered so many at our skill positions. I'd say the same of any team that suffered a ton of injuries. Whichever WR finished best likely gets OROY but I wouldn't count out Jeanty yet if he puts together 2 great final games. He's done a pretty remarkable job behind that rag tag line in Las Vegas.

I'd say we've been less decimated by injury if we're being honest. Godwin, Evans, Irving, Baker. Bucs offense has been walking wounded for much of the season. That's the nature of the NFL and you play with what you've got. I wouldn't call them frauds though.

How we weren't willing to roll the dice on Wilson but were on Brooks remains a mystery.

XL needs the ball with room to run or to try to outrun someone. He's a bigger version of Ted Ginn with worse hands, no route tree and no boundary sense.

Welcome to the Huddle

He's gonna be able to talk about his grandkid watching him play in the NFL.

No need to at this point. Vet min is almost 1.2 for him and he wouldn't be back until late in the season if at all. It would be a waste of cap space. Unfortunate, but reality of the game.

Yosh will replace BC at swing. I like BC but his time as a Panther may be done. Achilles injuries are a lot to overcome, especially that late in the season to even have a chance at next year.

Costs the same to cut him as keep him. On the list of dumb things to do, this is up there

First thing. Can he catch the damn ball. Nope. Off the board. Yes. Move on to evaluation step 2.

No GM hits 100%. I'm well aware. But what a GM has to do is look at the roster, what's available, and future contracts and go from there. XL was a one season wonder in college. He has speed. Who cares. He body catches and his hands are bricks. Speed doesn't matter when you don't actually have the ball. There were other receivers available with better resumes. XL was a project. Fitts loved projects. You don't have the luxury of projects when you just traded away DJ for a QB. 1st round WRs need to contribute now. Brooks was a luxury RB pick we didn't have the luxury to make. Who cares if Dallas was going to pick him. We had holes all over our defense. We just inked 150m interior line and then centered it by moving a guard to center that had suffered 2 season ending injuries. The most critical area on our line was being held together by a bandaid and a prayer. No surprise when it didn't work. Wallace is getting better but Wilson was sitting there waiting to be taken. DPOY for college football right there for the taking. That was a gimme pick. If you're going to take a risk on an injured player, the 3rd round for Wilson made a whole lot more sense at a position we were rest stop TP thin at. 4th round and on aren't going to be heavy contributors unless you're lucky. He did well on the trade for Jackson. Coker, I believe he offered the largest guarantee. He actually got more than some late round picks make. Those 1st 3 picks, IMO, were straight up whiffs. Looking back at Fitterer's picks, I think he tried to plug holes because we had a ton of them. Problem was, he wasn't very good at it and he loved RAS scores and developmental players with a coach that couldn't develop a Polaroid. He tried to do too much. He was impatient. His other problem was he panicked during the draft and couldn't read or understand the flow of how drafts tend to go. DJ Johnson was the prime example. We needed an edge rusher and he jumped in at the end of the run instead of starting it. Morgan's first year looked exactly like Fitts to me. Lots of projects. 2nd year looks better. We'll see how 3rd year goes. FA also plays into all of this as well but that's a whole different topic of how it played out and planning with regard to drafting.

The only thing I said was he was part of the staff that made part of the decisions, and that I am judging the decisions made by that group as a whole. As assistant GM, you can pretty much guarantee his input held more sway than an intern or the guy that takes coffee requests. Fitterer didn't operate in a vacuum. Neither does Morgan now. While Fitterer did have the ultimate decision, to say that Dan had no input in ranking boards, evaluating FAs, trade offers or anything else would be asinine. We all know he did. Otherwise what the hell was his job as assistant GM? He wouldn't have been kept for 3 years if he was arguing every decision Scott ever made. And the actual quote was "Morgan has done a bang up job in the draft and FA. Compared to what the last guy did, he is kicking ass and taking names." So is XL kicking ass and Brooks taking names from last years draft or did I get it backwards? We took Wallace over Payton Wilson because he was an injury risk after trading up for a RB with a torn ACL? Which one of the kicking ass and taking names was that? Maybe we should review the thousands of gameday posts calling for XL to get off the field because he's a bust and can't catch a cold. We could review the posts about Brooks but... And Wilson. He's at 118 tackles this season vs 36 for Wallace. I gave credit to Dan for a good draft this year. But I'm also not ignoring last year's draft either since he did that one after the last guy too. That's not a strawman.

And you can't say how much Dan did or didn't influence decisions that were made. All I can look at is what's happened while he's been part of the organization. And there's no way to know why he was hired either. You're making a lot of assumptions. From what I've seen from Morgan as GM alone, 1 horrible draft and FA period, one good looking draft and FA period. Not going to crown him a GM god after a year. Sorry.

Actually I'm more frustrated at the FO than anyone and have been for a long time.

Dan's been part of 5 drafts, 3 as an assistant to the "last guy" and 2 leading the way. The first 3 with Fitts were pretty ugly overall. Last year's draft, his 1st, isn't looking hot. This year looking like a winner. He's been part of some bad FA decisions, some good ones, and right now we have the most expensive OL in the league with our franchise LT on the last year of his rookie deal. That's going to get even more expensive. I'm not ready to crown him as a GM god quite yet because one good year isn't making up for all the bad that's been done the previous 4.