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OTs of the past 10 years from 2021 NFL Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com 2012: Matt Kahil 2013: Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Lane Johnson 2014: Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews 2015: Ereck Flowers 2016: Ronnie Stanley, Jack Conklin 2017: 2018: Mike McGlinchey 2019: 2020: Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills JR 2021: Penei Sewell Alot of these guys moved to RT but coming out of college a lot of teams were hoping for LT, just like one or more of the top guys this year might end up moving. As you can see by the list, there are no guarantees of a finding a quality LT even drafting in the top 10.

From what I could tell Willis threw it from the far 35, receiver caught it about a yard deep in the end zone, so 66 yards. Here is Pickett's "long throw" 1:50 mark NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks highlight QBs with highest ceiling, highest floor in 2022 NFL Draft class About 62 yards, but he actually looked pretty under control on the throw. I'm not saying he has a stronger arm then Willis, he doesn't, but people get too caught up on these kind of things. On a side note, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Howell doesn't throw it as far as Willis and Ridder on his pro day.

PFF didn't make the Fitzgerald-Spielberger trade value chart, it just happens to be the one they use to judge these GMs with this graph for this article. Even then all they are doing is looking at if the GM is winning or loosing the trade based on point differential based on the chart. How the picks actually turn out is irrelevant to this graph. Here is a write up about the various charts that NFL team use, with the Jimmy Johnson chart being the most well known. The Fitzgerald-Spielberger trade value chart is a good bit newer and tries to factor in the rookie wage scale that was implemented in 2011. NFL Trade Value Charts: Different draft trade value charts to follow (profootballnetwork.com)

no he didn't, watch his follow through, he uncorks his whole body and falls to his left

What they are most likely talking about is a package that includes some teams 1st this year + that teams 1st next year. For example the Giants 5th pick for Washington's 11th this year plus Washingtons 2023 1st. That trade is actually pretty close on the charts. Or Pittsburg's 1st this year and their 2nd next, even though Pittsburg's 1st this year is 20th so they would have to add even more to it.

either way, fans throw out term like generational way too often. Go look at all of the LTs drafted in the top-10 in the last 10 years, there is risk involved with them also. Forget generational, history tells us that even Neal and Ekwonu probably have less than 50% chance of becoming top-5 LTs in the league. With that being said both I agree with you that both of those tackles are safer picks than any of the QBs, but in reality there always pretty much be safter non-QBs at any point in the draft to pick. There were probably safer picks we could have made instead of Cam. At some point you just have to weigh the reward with the risk.

can all 3 really be generational? I agree that the LTs on paper look like better prospects than these QBs but lets don't act like they are sure things. There is risk with almost any player.

From a money perspective maybe, but from from a WAR (Wins above replacement) perspective, QBs are in a league of their own. Even if you want to say LTs are second its a distant second.

because Wentz is better than what Washington had last year and Ryan is better than the Colts had last year.

Here is what scares me about Love: You have a team that spent a high pick on him for the sole reason to replace their current QB(Rodgers) at some point. They have had him in house, in their system, for two years, and think so little of him that they let Rodgers have every bit of leverage and made him the highest paid player ever in the league. This isn't some QB who went to a bad team that ruins QBs, he is on a team that usually has pretty good QB play.

ok, if you say so doesn't change the fact the point of my post was that it's not a crazy idea to think they are trying to show heavy interests in the top 3 QBs for a reason outside of taking one of the top 3 QBs. Would I put money on that, probably not, but that doesn't mean there isn't a chance of that happening.

Waiting until the 3rd round to take a QB that you are really high on takes some discipline. Doesn't change the fact that they showed very little interest outwardly towards Wilson. I'm not saying they aren't taking a QB, I'm just saying it wouldn't be a crazy idea to show heavy interest in the top 2-3 QBs if they are hoping some of the top non-QBs fall to you. I would think you would be happy about that.

The more obvious everything seems the more it all seems like a smokescreen. Maybe we are hoping 1 or 2 QBs go before us so we can get one of the top-2 tackles or maybe we really want to trade down for Howell or Ridder. If I remember correctly, and I wish I could find the article, I want to say I read something one time that talked about how much Seattle slow played drafting Wilson, basically they gave no indication during the draft. Something to think about with Fitterer here now.

People get caught up with this concept of floor/ceiling, but they only think in terms of arm strength and athletic ability. What about their eyes? Do they stare down receivers? That lowers your ceiling. Can they manipulate a safety with their eyes? That raises their ceiling. Can they go beyond just completing the pass and hit the receiver in stride so the receiver can convert the third down? That raises their ceiling. Can they vary trajectory to drop a pass in a void on a cover-2? That raises their ceiling. Can they go through progressions or do they latch on to the first read? At the NFL good DCs will take away your first read. How many people here have actually sat down and watched a full game of any of these QB prospects, or are we just forming opinions off of pro days and highlight vids? I actually took time to day to watch a full game cut up from Malik today and actually came away impressed. Everyone talks about his arm strength but I saw some nice touch on some of the passes. What I didn't see was him dropping back and going through a bunch of progressions and such. Is that because he can't or is that because he wasn't asked to? That is the big question that all of these evaluators have to ask. Same could be said about some of these other QBs also. I do expect to go fairly high though, coaches fall in love with "tools" they assume they can teach the skills i was referring to earlier.

Maybe the cap isn't a myth.....

even if they did have a favorite why in the world would they tell everyone? I know fans get excited and want to know what is going to happen before it does, but honestly, they shouldn't let the world know.

there are metrics out there that are based on percentage of pressures that results in sacks, the number of pressures or how good or bad the O-line is therefore irrelevelent. For example: QB A is pressured 100 times takes 20 sacks. QB B is only pressured 60 times but takes 15 sacks. QBA at first glance gets sacked more but in reality QB does a worse job of avoiding being sacked.

he isn't, what is your point?

for all of his skill as a runner he takes sacks at an alarming rate, that is somewhat concerning though

nothing to gain really. Everyone already thinks he is really fast. Running a 4.5 has a greater chance of hurting his stock then running a 4.4 does in helping his stock.

I don't think people are so much saying QBs that can run can't win a Super Bowl, its more QBs that can run, but are limited working from the pocket. Roders is mobile, but he happens to be pretty good from the pocket, same with someone like Young.

No he isn't, he is a better prospect, that will most likely become a better QB in time, but Minshews best NFL seasons are better than Lawrences best NFL seasons. What you have done on the field and what people expect you to do at some point are two different things and until Lawrance does that he isn't better. With that being said I'm sure 32 out of 32 teams would take Lawrance but that doesn't mean he was better than Minshew in his rookie season, and likewise not drafting any QB because you don't expect him to be better than Minshew in their rookie season is dumb.

Small hand guy fumbles a lot it's because he has small hands. Big hand guy fumbles a lot its just because he fumbles a lot. Why the NFL combine built a myth around QB hand size, a measurement that doesn't mean anything (espn.com) Kenny Pickett might fumble a lot in the NFL but his small hands won't be the predictor of that, his past history will.

is Trevor Lawrence?