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Jameis is on a very cheap two year deal and is effectively backing up Jaxson dart and I cannot believe I’m saying this about that white trash little freak. the nyg qb who’s available is unfortunately Russell Wilson, though I do think a this offense is basically Russell Wilson bullshit lite.

Seven turnovers through five games with middling offensive production is eeeesh

I mean they’ve lost both of their offensive tackles for the year. I agree they feel like they should be better but at this point they’re kinda fuged.

Hurneys drafts didn’t get insane until after he won the power struggle with Fox and it became less a collaborative approach. he was involved in the 2001 panthers draft, to what extent we don’t know. 2002 through 2008 were all very good drafts top to bottom. Obviously some top line panther players, but tons of guys that hung around the league forever, and a bunch of contributors at all rounds. Even what is considered a “bad” draft, the 2005 one, still netted Davis, Geoff hangartner, and Evan Mathis who’d eventually do a bunch of horse steroids and become one of the best tackles in the league. 2006 is maybe the best draft in panthers history. 2008 had good players all over the place, lots of guys who got second and third contracts in the nfl it wasn’t until after Fox was pushed aside after 2008 that things really went south. They traded up for Everette brown (Fox didn’t want him) and it just took years to recover from that. Hurney could also never figure out the defensive line; he just didn’t have an eye for that talent. He drafted Charles Johnson and Greg Hardy but couldn’t get anyone in the middle and that’s what eventually killed him…..before he came back. the overpaying their own players (James Anderson the most egregious example of this) was partly because Richardson had to win the team back over after the disastrous 2010 and he was liked. It was also part of how Richardson wanted the team run; they’re never going to be big market but they’ll take care of their own I’ve always said that hurney never got over the high of his early career where he just couldn’t miss and he started taking a lot more chances. He always thought he was the smartest guy in the room and you really saw that with how he tried to address the defensive tackle situation. He was going to get all these low experience college guys and change their position and he was gonna draft them two rounds early but it didn’t matter because he’d be proven right in the end. He was best when Fox was there to remind him that hey we actually need football players and it just projects. Like if you want to cry look at offensive players drafted two years before cam newton to 2012. Just get ONE fuging starter in there and cams entire career would have been different. But he could spot physical talent. Jeremy chinn was probably the most Hurney of Hurney picks, and I’ll never understand how Rhule fuged that up so bad. Chinn looked like a bigger Ed reed his rookie season and then was ruined. in conclusion, I think Hurney was a good drafter who hit a very bad stretch during a period of turmoil within the franchise that was partly his fault, partly the owners, and partly John fox’s. He had a ton of wild ideas that worked out, from players developing to hiring coaches specifically for the offense (chudzinksi) to trade moves etc. but he was his own worst enemy and probably shouldn’t have been hired again. He was an expert at playing office politics and intentionally shied away from coaches that could threaten him, which is one of the reasons Rivera was hired. id take hurney back in a second.

Also there was interest in acquiring joe thomas during the 2015 season. This was when the panthers were realizing just how good they were that year but before the trade deadline obviously. It was gonna cost a 1 plus. i think we’d all agree we’d trade Vernon Butler for a superbowl bowl with Joe thomas at left and Mike remmers dead in a ditch.

Gettleman specifically did not and there are multiple stories of him changing his mind at the last second and being like “I’m the GM it’s a gut call blah blah blah” all the scouts had told Devonte Adams he was going to be a panther, then at the last second gettleman decided he wanted Benjamin exclusively because of the catch in the national championship game. he did the same thing with andrew thomas in New York.

what do you mean IF Bryce fails

Lmao after legette couldn’t pull it that pass, it was 3rd and 4. Bryce went incomplete, delay of game, incomplete.

He was trash against the eagles. Last second opportunities are secondary to that. That game was all about the defense and chubba. prior to the final drive Bryce was a whopping 14/23 for 135 yards, a pick, and a big two yard touchdown pass. That is who he is. maybe we don’t need XL to lay out for a catch if he’s done anything the other parts of the game. also Bryce had two penalties on that last drive lmao I forgot.

Lmao the eagles game where only one pass was thrown. If one throw is worth a whole career then he also threw this one in the same game. https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1865822057725821072?s=46 taken in totality his career is much closer to the legette hospital ball than the one I completion Bryce defenders can’t let go.

End of second season I made a thread about him. He really started coming around second half of his second year also you have to have the inpatient sleep study to properly titrate your cpap anyway.

You know that guy who didn’t complete a third down pass for nearly three quarters against the eagles? if he gets back to that level of play you can’t let him walk.

Bryce in the second half of last season was one of the least productive qbs in the league, and even his four game “hot stretch” to end the season included included hideous performances against Tampa and Dallas.

This is called sunk cost fallacy and you’re doing it twice in two sentences.

This is why you don’t do this. Not extending him or the “wait and see” approach sends all the wrong messages to basically everyone, especially in Bryce’s case because of the resources used to acquire him. You’re telling the fanbase that “ehhh who knows let’s just see how it plays out” which makes no one happy. You basically HAVE to bring in competition, because if you don’t then why didn’t you extend him or pick up the option? You’re telling Bryce you’re not really sure he’s the answer and making him compete as above, something he’s not really had to do. You’re also exposing him to another year on a rookie contract where he could sustain a career ending injury which will not endear him with the front office. Plus Bryce had already shown he’ll stir poo when he’s benched; god knows the whispers Russini will hear if they actually make him earn a spot in training camp. the players know better than the fans what Bryce is capable of. You’re sending them a message of indecisiveness. and then not that you have to worry about this with Bryce but if he goes off in year four, he’s got you by the short hairs in negotiations. Like you wouldn’t have let Joe burrow hit free agency after his fourth year to give an extreme example. you can’t just let him hang around like this. And the fifth year is just a negotiating tactic for the owners anyway. at the end of this season, Bryce is either extended or cut/traded, and no one in their right mind thinks he’s done enough for the former, or will by years end.

But what if you only look at the fourth quarter of the last game? #turningcorners

May 1st, 2026. basically after this season. and if you don’t pick it up you unofficially have to cut him or trade him.

This is also not true. Brees deep ball even after his shoulder injury was still better than Bryce’s today. Brees weighed in at the combine at 213, and he didn’t need a month of the Panda Express diet to get there. He also threw at the combine which is something Bryce couldn’t do because of how fat he was. There are a lot of whispers that Bryce played closer to 165 at Alabama, and I can’t imagine he’s heavier than 185 now. Those are not the same physical weaknesses, no matter how many times you say it.

Et tu, fake stats?

Reminder that brown was supposed to be Herbie.

lmao

the records will show i was the first person on the board to realize "oh poo this guy is actually really good." remember next time you want to argue with me about someone

maybe bryce will open a string of jimmy john's that don't offer delivery

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