Toomers

Compared to what Lawson just got, and I like Lawson, yes it is. He was going to get 20M before his injury. This is as cheap as he would be for a long time.

It’s day one and Williams was coming off surgery and couldn’t work out for teams. Nowhere near the same.

Good move. His injury means they get him at a good price. Hate losing him.

Agholor just got 13M/yr. Curtis is getting paid Edit: or he just did? Edit again: back to will get

I think the Steelers know he’s not coming back. And with Agholar getting 2/26M from NE, it’s still hard to figure out his market. Which affects Samuels deal. Losing Dupree hurt much worse.

Do you hate the truth that much. That you are unable discuss or dispute. Surely one of your previous alts had a pair.

That explains what will likely happen.

Fun start. But they were never that good as it seemed when they were 11-0. No running game and Ben looked done for a month. Didn’t take much. AFC had lot of very good teams.

You pick up backup OL in June after the draft and UDFA show up. And maybe he’s not an expert, but if the Panthers followed his plan last year, they would be in much better shape than they are currently under Rhule’s decisions.

People believe what they want to believe. And most sportswriters have no clue when it comes to the cap.

Because you damn sure weren’t about to have any sort of football related discussion and show everyone how full of sh1t you really are.

Then find me anything that thinks it’s a good move. Any non-Panther site. How are they any less credible than the rest of these self proclaimed experts people post stuff from on a daily basis.

Ahh... that’s sweet. Problem for you is I’m always right. Something you would never know anything about.

Seems like other folks are not fans of this deal either. Panthers sign OT Cameron Erving (2 years, $10 million; $6 million guaranteed): O'BRIEN Grade When grading the Pat Elflein signing, I wrote that the Vikings were laughing at the move because they waived Elflein in 2020. Now that the Panthers have signed Cameron Erving, I can say that numerous teams are laughing, namely every single franchise that has rostered Erving over the years Frankly, Erving is a bad player. He's a replacement-level talent. He has experience, but that doesn't matter because it's nothing but bad experience. He's not even a good backup because there's no upside. With that in mind, there was no reason to pay Erving this sort of money. Any sort of guarantee is a mistake. Even six dollars - forget the million - would be too much. This signing deserves an F- grade. It's even worse than the Patriots' decision to overpay Jonnu Smith because Smith, at least, is a solid player.

And they will have paid 12-14M for two players that could have been player on rookie deals or vet min guys. Same waste of money that keeps them in this position.

Why would I care. Y’all can win or lose and it won’t matter to me. I’m here for the train wreck. It’s fun to watch total incompetence so readily accepted by a fan base.

No your crying about people bringing up legitimate concerns. And your defense is Tepper is Rich which couldn’t mean less in this, or any discussion involving paying players. You’re upset your team is ignorant and people are pointing it out.

So I, and everyone who thinks anything the team does is wrong, should never say it? Did you complaining for years about Hurney help get him fired? Didn’t stop you from complaining about the incompetence.

How much money Tepper has means nothing when paying any player. Or do you really not understand that?

That you don’t understand how this affects the Panthers as a team make it easy to see why you can’t “imagine” people being upset with the FO continuously blowing cap space. Sticking your head in the sand and just hoping everything works out is definitely the rational thing to do.

Because they choose to. They have the same rules as everyone else.

That’s sort of why I threw in the “slot” comment. He has to be able to cover outside the hashes to get positional value of a CB. Just like some team has to believe CS is a WR2.

As folks have said, it depends on Jackson. What do you view him as? He’s in an almost exact situation Samuel was in last year. If you do nothing and he does well, he’s gonna command a much higher price. Too risky to give him a bunch of guaranteed money and sign him now. Tough call. And does he eventually need to move to slot? Pride is a backup CB until he shows anything.

I don’t think many want the truth. I’ve blasted Marty’s moves for years, but there was nothing about last year that he had any power to make any decisions. It was obvious the moment Berry turned down the interview. Rhule may have used up his leash by wasting 80M last year. If there’s one thing Tepper understands, it’s the salary cap. He sees how little value the team got for it and maybe told him he has to get a real GM and share some responsibilities.

That is not how it’s done when you give a HC 70M for 7 years and the lame duck GM 1M. It’s why they tried to hire Andrew Berry two weeks after Rhule. But he wouldn’t interview because Rhule had total control. And if Rhule was seriously considering anything Hurney ever said, that’s just as troubling with Marty’s resume. Why is it that not one reporter associated with the Panthers has ever said Hurney was the driving force behind Teddy’s signing. Just one “fan” 2 hours after Hurney was fired. Showing him as the scapegoat I knew he would be. Why didn’t Getzenberg mention his involvement. Mentioned Evan Cooper and conversations while Rhule was at Baylor. Mentioned Brady who coached him before. Mentioned Rhule’s interest before taking the job. All it said about Marty was he was scouting Herbert.