Mr. Scot

If you're a guy in the last year of your contract and hoping against hope for an extension though, tanking is off the table.

That's a bit of a hot button topic around here

I know that's a huge sore spot for you.

Here are the teams with the least space... No shock who's at the top, but also noteworthy that every other team in our division is on that list.

Possible. One of the things I like about this year's draft though is that I feel like even if guys don't wind up being starters, they may not necessarily be complete busts. Take Brady Christensen for example. Even if he's not our left tackle of the future, he could still be a great guard. I'll take that over a Greg Little who's likely a complete washout.

That's kind of apples to oranges. Comparing two players at the same position taken at about the same spot is perfectly valid.

Side Note: Breer also says we're currently 10th in available cap space. This will change given that we haven't signed all of our rookies yet, including our top pick. Penei Sewell signed his deal today, so the players taken both before and after Horn have signed (per Person).

Albert Breer thinks it's possible there could be after the team's signing of Brian Hoyer. From PatsSTH1969 (@PatsSTH1969): Out of the four quarterbacks on the Patriots roster (Newton, Stidham, Jones, Hoyer), which is the worst system fit and why? Pats ’69er, I feel like this is a trap! Obviously the one that doesn’t fit with the others is Cam Newton (though I could make an argument that Jarrett Stidham’s background matches up cleaner with Newton’s than Mac Jones’s or Brian Hoyer’s), and so I think what you’re asking is whether Hoyer’s return to Foxboro could mean the end for Newton there. It might. It’s easy to see how, if the Patriots really liked what they saw from Jones at rookie camp over the week, they might think it’s time to get him a veteran sounding board in case he winds up starting—on the premise that Newton wouldn’t fit as a backup. Or, if you think about it, it also could set the Patriots up to give Jones a true redshirt year, where if Newton were to get hurt, they wouldn’t have to press him into action. And then, guess what. You’ve got your answer on why bringing Hoyer back makes sense. He will be, at baseline, a good resource for the No. 15 pick, as a guy who’s spent much of his 12-year career in Josh McDaniels’s system. From there, he’d work in either scenario. Or maybe he won’t make the team. By the way: It’s May. I wouldn’t overreact. 5/19 Mailbag

I'd say Arnold and tremble are probably gonna be pretty good competition.

It's been reported by multiple sources that Marty wasn't on board with the rebuild last year, for obvious reasons (saving his own ass).

I haven't looked at a draft and immediately thought "wow, this could be good" since 2017. Last year did give me some hope. It's nice to be able to feel hopeful about drafts again rather than just going into them thinking "man I hope this doesn't suck".

Obviously you can't predict who's gonna get injured and stuff. FYI: In the article referenced in the other thread, Person says he thinks Ian Thomas has a good shot at making it. I expect a lot of people will disagree.

It happens, man. Well, not to me but...ya know

For anyone wondering, the other guys on the roster bubble list were Trenton Cannon, Brandon Zylstra, Bravvion Roy, Troy Pride Jr and Stantley Thomas-Oliver. The reasons behind each one are pretty much the same; a number of new faces acquired at their positions could put them in danger.

Fair point.

Obligatory Bills War Room video... It doesn't hurt as much as it used to now that Marty's gone and we got Dan Morgan.

I think it's very possible you're going to see a good number of this year's draft picks make it, if for no other reason than that you have a new GM who's looking to make the roster fit his vision (along with Rhule's). I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see some of this year's draft picks displacing some prior years' draft picks.

For the record, in a presser given at the time Marty stated that the picks in the first three rounds were "need" picks. Everything from there on out was going to be BPA, but Burns, Little and Grier were taken specifically to fill existing holes on the roster.

Yeah, well... Is it "all time" bad, though? I mean, you've got potential guys like Miller and Daley, but it could be argued that they're zeroed out by the huge misses with Little and Grier.

In his latest Athletic article about a dozen players that are on the roster bubble (link), Joe Person mentions that the Panthers 2019 draft is starting to look like "an all time dud". Obviously, there's Brian Burns. But remember we also know that if Burns had been taken ahead of our pick, our first round choice would have been Greg Little. As it was, we still got Little, and even traded up for him. The rest of that draft though? Oy Here's the full list of players taken after Burns: Round 2 - Pick 37: Greg Little The aforementioned Little has already been discussed at length in this forum. I know there are a few who still think he could be saved by trying him at guard, but the reality is it's highly unlikely he could handle a position switch. Even with the injuries, his body isn't the biggest problem. It's his brain. Round 3 - Pick 100: QB Will Grier Another oft discussed topic, including the mention that Marty had Grier rated above some of the top quarterbacks in the draft. To his credit, Grier has been working on improving, but the outlook still isn't optimistic. Round 4 - Pick 115: LB Christian Miller Miller is in an unfortunate spot partially through no fault of his own. He was picked as part of the team transition to a 3-4 defense that went by the wayside with Ron Rivera's firing. Last year's opt out was a valid choice, but realistically speaking it probably didn't help his cause for this season. Round 5 - Pick 154: RB Jordan Scarlett Didn't make it through his first year in Carolina (injured after appearing in nine games) but Scarlett is still in the league. He spent last year on the Lions practice squad and is currently going to camp with the dolphins. Round 6 - Pick 212: OL Dennis Daley And here's another enigma like Miller. Daley has actually played decently when he's played. But he's had a rough time staying healthy, especially last year. Could wind up sticking as depth this year but it's not guaranteed. Round 7 - Pick 237: WR Terry Godwin Be honest. If I had asked you to name who our 7th round pick was in 2019, would you have remembered him? ... FYI: Grier, Little and Miller are all on Person's roster bubble along with players like Keith Kirkwood, Marquis Haynes, Troy Pride and Kenny Robinson. Person said he was tempted to throw Ian Thomas on there but thinks he'll make it. JJ Jansen is on it for obvious reasons and Joey Slye might be if another kicker is brought in. It's probably fair to characterize this draft as Brian Burns and not much else. Reminds me of the 2011 Draft where we came out of it with nobody but Cam Newton. Yeah, Newton was great, but getting pretty much nothing out of every other pick was a disaster. I'd say Miller and Daley at least still have a chance to show something, but it wouldn't be a terrible surprise if they didn't make it. Little and Grier of course are both huge misses at positions where we really couldn't afford to miss. So is it fair to characterize this draft as an 'all time dud"? Would you consider it better or worse than the 2011 Draft? And how much chance do you give the players that still remain from it to stick with the team?

I don't think he's trolling

Technically, they've got two of 'em. The Lions also brought back Chris Spielman in a consultant sort of capacity. Word was that Spielman is one of the reasons Dan Campbell got the head coaching job.

That's the part that scares me.

His initial press conference made a lot of people cringe, but I think it's very possible Campbell could turn out to be a pretty good coach.

Toomers is a Steelers troll who apparently doesn't have anything better to do with his life than argue dumb sh-t on a Panthers board. He's not worth the effort. Sizzlebuzz? That one's...hard to explain. He's been on here under other IDs before. His current one has a weird obsession with David Tepper.