Mr. Scot

There's a shock, especially after all the screaming he did about it. Wonder if someone told him "31 other owners hate your guts".

I'm not surprised. I was surprised when they got the penalties they did. I think if they reduce it, it's stupid, but I'd be lying if I said i was surprised.

"I agree".

Goodell, Kraft have spoken, hugged recently "I'm so sorry I hurt your feelings, Bob. I know you'd never cheat on me. Can you forgive me for not believing in you?"

I'd agree that if you handcuff a QB who can run, you lessen the threat against the defense. The threat should always be there even if, over time, the number of actual runs naturally decreases. The last few years of John Elway provide a good example for me. I do suggest that you spend more time coaching him as a passer than you do as a runner because his passing skills are what's going to determine his long term success. Heck, good running doesn't require as much coaching and practice as good passing, anyway. So bottom line: Emphasize passing in the coaching department while you also solidify an offensive line to protect the pocket and you've got a blueprint for success regardless of how much or how little he runs in the future, but don't take the designed runs out. The threat needs to be there to keep defenses on their heels.

My schools certainly had bullies (they all do,) but I personally never got bullied much at all. A few years after graduating high school though, I ran into a member of the 'popular crowd' who'd been a colossal a--hole to pretty much everybody he felt was beneath him (which was most of us). At the time, he was doing a menial job and looked like he was pretty embarrassed to be recognized. I did nothing that you'd call 'revenge' but will confess to getting a chuckle out of the encounter.

If you've ever really busted your ass for something for a long time and finally achieved a goal, it's like that.

I'm in agreement with the general consensus here. Sorry to hear, but other than covering your bases I wouldn't push farther.

If I'm the Seahawks, I absolutely trade him right now. May as well get something back, right?

I thought someone posted a link to a YouTube clip of the full game recently.

The first win ever, vs the Jets, when Sam Mills picked a shovel pass and took it back for a TD was also memorable. And if course, Jake's ripped pants game Lord, there's a lot...

A win made sweeter by Norv Turner's pregame comments. The 2003 opener against the Jags (touchdown, Ricky Proehl) was special too, as was the next week (blocked) against the Bucs. Honestly, 2003 was just full of great memories.

The double overtime win over the Rams remains to this day the single greatest football game I have ever seen in over 40 years of watching football. I doubt anything short of a Super Bowl victory could ever top that for me.

Beginning to wonder if the League might not be 'circling the wagons' against Brady and Kraft. In the past day or so, John Elway and Jerry Jones have both made statements supporting Commissioner Roger Goodell . Jones - whose team was busted for a salary cap violation not long ago and just had his newly acquired pass rusher suspended 10 games - praised Goodell for his 'fairness'. Wonder if we'll be hearing more statements like this in days to come.

You're not helping yourself look any better here, ya know. The comparison is dumb, really dumb, as multiple people have told you in this thread. If you wanna keep running with it, all you're gonna accomplish is to make yourself look bad.

And that relates to a guy who had a fight with his brother - something everyone who has a brother has done numerous times - how, exactly? As I and others have said, this is a really silly comparison.

That's roughly like saying, "Anthony Hopkins and Pauly Shore are both award winning actors" and glossing over the fact that one has an Oscar and one has a Razzie. The case you made for equivalence of Wegher and Winston was lousy (and I'm being generous).

I have no comment. I just wanted to quote what I think is the first ever use of the word "licentious" on this board.

Pretty much, especially a highly drafted one. Swearinger was a second round pick in 2013. This would be equivalent to us cutting Kawann Short.

Just wait till someone starts a crusade to end the national problem of brother vs brother domestic violence

So likely we took a look, saw he was a head case and said, "Nah".

Three strike rule likely would have gotten me before I ever made it to twelve.

Heck, full on, knock down, drag outs... Regardless of how you feel about Winston (and I'm largely indifferent) any attempt to equate these two situations is pretty silly.

As I understand it, this investigation was conducted solely by Ted Wells. Goodell did not take part in the actual investigation, only the judgment after it was done.

Show me somebody who hasn't had a fistfight with their brother and I'll show you somebody who doesn't have a brother. Said it elsewhere: If fighting with your brother counted as domestic violence, my brother and I would both be in jail as habitual criminals.