Mr. Scot

I should add this is one of those stories where I kind of wonder how much of the true story is ever really going to get out. I know the world today is one where you're lucky if people read past the headlines, and headlines can be misleading. And once you get past initial opinions, people stop paying attention. So who knows?

One other thing I'd like to know would be whether or not anyone in the family had any sort of creative input to how the movie portrayed characters and events. Pretty sure the answer to that is no because that rarely happens in Hollywood. Adrian Cronauer talked about how much the studio twisted the events of Good Morning Vietnam for dramatic effect. Similar stuff happened with Argo and other movies. The Blind Side was no exception, especially when it came to Oher. He's always had a legitimate beef with his portrayal in the movie as an oafish clod who knew nothing about football. There's been plenty of documentation just how wrong that characterization was. Again though, I kinda doubt the family is to blame for that.

Yeah, saw that... And naturally, I'll be forwarding that information to Lady Cowboy Fan.

That's what I'd expect. Also, as others have said, I'd expect accounting to find the people who made the movie also made way more of a profit than any of the people it was based on did.

Here's the crux of the question @CRA Would you trust Ron Rivera to be in charge of Bryce Young's development as a quarterback? This is what the whole discussion has been about, and it's a simple yes or no question. So what's your answer?

So when others were in charge of Newton, team wins were a quarterback stat, but suddenly when Turner takes over, they're not So it sounds like the real mistake was to let Norv Turner try and turn Newton into a pro quarterback rather than just trying to somehow make a college system work long-term in the NFL. Yeah, sure

Not really sure what to think of this story just yet... From what I've read, it sounds like the money the family made off the movie is relatively small, definitely nowhere near what Oher would have made from an NFL contract. Yes, there would be perks to the fame they gained, but those would apply to Oher as well. He definitely gained greater fame than his NFL career alone would have given him. The primary questions I have that I haven't seen answered yet... 1) Did Oher also make money off the movie? If so, how much relative to what the family made? 2) Did the family get any portion of his NFL earnings? (that one is kind of important) 3) What was the purpose of the conservatorship from the family's perspective? 4) What actual financial decisions came out of the conservatorship? Can't say I've done a deep dive into this story yet, so if any of this has been answered already, feel free to enlighten me.

Heck, I managed to find one who even tells me I'm wrong about football. Guess I'm just lucky, or... something

That...I gotta see

Weird. My wife says the same thing. Al Bundy might have been onto something

Turner proved Newton absolutely could have been special in a pro-system. And to be clear, the "ride I didn't want to go on" was one that shortened the career of our starting quarterback. That's what happened, and you're suggesting that the guy who drove that particular "ride" should be thanked for it.

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Ah, yes the old tactic of accusing your opponent of what you're actually doing...solid Multiple people on this site have said and agree that Rivera's handling of Newton actually shortened his career rather than maximizing it. Your suggestion that having him in a pro-system would have somehow negated his talents is pretty silly.

I can't sign on to what Robert Saleh said/did, but I'm not the world's biggest fan of joint practices either. Among other issues, it's pretty much guaranteed there'll be a fight. I get why teams do it, but still...

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As I recall, Smith also did something dumb and got himself in trouble, but he is at least still around trying to make the roster.

They sounded optimistic about Zavala as well. Believe they said he could be available for some preseason action.

Nice attempt at revision My original statement was in response to someone suggesting that the 2011 staff was equal to the current one. I pointed out that I would not want Ron Rivera in charge of developing Bryce Young. (pretty sure most people here wouldn't, especially not over the staff we have now) That was when you came in with the ridiculous argument that Rivera actually developed Newton rather than just taking advantage of his talents. Yeah, sure Again, the fact that we had one great season (my actual word) a couple of good ones and a bunch of decent to mediocre ones with Newton starting isn't an opinion. It's a matter of record. As mentioned before, the same description applies to Luke Kuechly, Greg Olsen and any other player from that period. We changed GMs. Hell, we even changed owners. The one constant was Ron Rivera. Your primary evidence of "development" was that they built a college style scheme around Newton to "let him be special". As pointed out, that's not really a recipe for "development", it actually fits my description far better. It wasn't until Norv Turner got here that anybody tried to actually turn Newton into a pro quarterback. By that time it was too late because too much damage had been done, but even then we saw evidence of what could have been had Rivera chosen that approach from the beginning. The notion that this method would have somehow kept him from being himself or maximizing his talents is honestly pretty ridiculous Now Ron's in Washington with full control (another fact you tried to deny) and once again on the verge of getting fired. I suppose if he does, you can lobby to bring him back so he can help in the development our young franchise quarterback. Me? I think I'll stick with the guys with got. Alluded before to your own admission that you sometimes like to defend goofball arguments just for the hell of it. Gotta say, this one's a doozy

Talking about the Jets line, not ours...

Ron fixation...yeah I'm not the one trying (unsuccessfully) to argue that Rivera could be trusted to develop a young quarterback.

Everybody's fault but...the head coach's

Sound familiar?

So maybe Saleh had a point...