Mr. Scot

Also...

Still gotta get a second Rooney Rule interview completed before anything official can happen

I'm not a subscriber and I was able to read it.

@ForJimmy quoted this article in another thread. It's a good one.

That's a good article.

Person added this as well... It still feels like there’s momentum for Johnson, the former North Carolina quarterback who directed a top-five offense in his first season calling plays in the NFL. Johnson is sharp, but green. He could benefit from having a former head coach on his staff.

The source for that report was Sean Payton.

From that same article... If Tepper is ready to swing for the fences with Payton, a couple of other members of the search committee probably aren’t too excited about the prospects. Payton almost certainly would want personnel control, which would likely leave general manager Scott Fitterer and assistant GM Dan Morgan looking for work. This idea gets worse every time we hear it.

Don't know, but there's been an awful lot of people asking that question.

I am. From the article... Fangio, the first defensive coordinator in Panthers history, has been mentioned as a possible DC for Payton if Payton gets hired. But pairing the 64-year-old Fangio with a young, offensive-minded candidate like Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson also is an option. The Rams employed a similar arrangement in Sean McVay’s first few seasons, teaming longtime head coach and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips with the then-31-year-old McVay. With as many as five head coaching candidates still to interview — including Johnson, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Denver defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero, among others — the Panthers don’t want to lose out on a DC candidate who might have other options.

He may technically be right, but that's generally not something you say out loud...

We know from behind the scenes stories in 2010 that he didn't want to draft Clausen. (granted, he was right in that case)

That was actually quoted from Darin Gantt. Fox was an old school defensive coach. In his thinking, the offense's job was basically to not screw up.

She got annoyed with something I said about the game last night. This playoff cycle is gonna be like walking through a minefield

You shouldn't. It's all bullsh-t. He doesn't know anything.

Well...

Fox didn't want to draft a franchise QB. He didn't believe in them. All he really wanted was a quarterback to run a basic offense and not screw up too much.

Hurney and McCormack weren't coaches. Del Rio and Henning weren't head coaches. Wannstedt never worked here in any capacity.

That's the guy I felt would have wound up as our head coach had Tepper done the smart thing and fired Matt Rhule last year.

If he takes a new job, Payton will be joining Doug Pederson and Mike McCarthy as current coaches with prior rings from elsewhere. In my time, I've seen Jimmy Johnson, Jon Gruden, Bill Parcells (multiple times), Mike Holmgren, Papa Shanahan, Mike Ditka and of course our own George Seifert win in one place but fail to repeat in their new jobs. Most never even made it back. As far as guys who lost or didn't get there in their first go round but made it with a new team, besides Reid there's Dick Vermeil, Tom Coughlin, Bruce Arians, Gary Kubiak, Pete Carroll, Tony Dungy, Tom Flores, Gruden again and of course Belichick. I always feel like Marv Levy deserves a mention here too because while he didn't technically win a Super Bowl with the Bills, he did at least get to four of them in a row. Hard to imagine anybody's ever going to be able to match that accomplishment. Bottom Line: History strongly favors the guys who don't have a ring already. Obviously, it's not impossible to guide two teams to a championship, but it's incredibly hard and not a single coach (including some all-time greats) has been able to do it.

I don't think they're tanking. I think either Irsay is drunk off his ass again or he's just that frigging stupid.

That's interesting.