Mr. Scot

And here i thought you were done for the night

Where? On the post game highlights?

Johnny Manziel isn't exactly ancient history either. All irrelevant though... I don't give a rip where Bryce ranks historically. All that matters to me is that he isn't good enough to be our franchise guy right now.

Did Phil Snow have the second best defense in the league?

You could make "times and context" where Cam Newton was a terrible quarterback if you wanted. (focusing on Super Bowl performance as a metric, for example) Your takes are terrible, dude. My only question is whether that's deliberate this time or not.

Sure it is... And I'm equally certain it's hot nothing to do with trying to distract that you're bading dogmatic takes on a game you didn't even watch

Jamarcus Russell isn't that far back in history.

Improved I'd go with, though "leaps and bounds" feels like a stretch, especially after today.

Eeehh, I don't know that is go that far.

So, you've never said he was the worst in NFL history or anything like that... Right?

Who's arguing we should keep him?

So basically, "I never again wanna talk about that thing that I'm actually the one who brought up". Okay?

Evero should have been fired after last season's historic sh-t bomb. He's arguably better this season, but still not good enough. Not that it matters though given he's likely gone next season regardless.

Odd...Ive been assured (repeatedly) that he's not only the worst in the NFL right now but also the worst in league history

Move on from something that only others bring up when they're trying to deflect from their own incredibly weak takes? Odd suggestion But hey, if you can produce a genuinely original take that isn't just being a contrarian, I'll ponder listening. (no googling though)

Sort of agree, though I'd probably phrase it differently.

This game isn't an essential watch to understand Bryce's limitations. And also, like Linville, you're getting closer to where I am in why we need to move on from Bryce. And yes, we've seen the good, the bad and the ugly from Bryce. What we still haven't seen is consistency, and I'm doubtful that we will. So ultimately, this game didn't move the needle for me on Bryce in either direction. On Ejiro Evero?

Shough had a good game. Never said otherwise. Not so sure he's got a long NFL career ahead of him, though. I wouldn't call this game an example of a bad Bryce game. But even if I did, I'd still put this loss way more on Evero, Canales and some utterly dumbsh-t plays on behalf of several of our players. One bit of agreement though: Your final point comes closer than anything else I've seen to matching why I believe in moving on from Bryce.

Lemme think about it... Nah

Daniels I'd give you. Still not convinced on Williams. Maye and Stroud are my biggest wishes at the moment.

Keep trying, dude You never did clarify whether you actually believe what you're saying now or just sh-tposting again though

Don't need to when the opposing arguments are this dumb

I'd suggest uou probably should. It'd at least be better than trying to make arguments based on a game you didn't bother to watch

I'm sure I could resort to pointing out prior takes of yours rather than arguing actual arguments if wanted. I choose not to because I don't honestly remember any actual arguments you've made, good or bad. It's pretty much all been just responses to someone else's ideas. Perhaps you can remind me of an original thought you posted?

Did I miss Hunt playing today? "Yeah, we've had injuries but when we signed those guys we were considered to have one of the best lines in the league. Therefore, Bryce is bad." Did that argument really make sense to you when you wrote it? Come on, dude Likewise, "anything good he might have done is invalidated Bec he screwed up on that one play" isn't what I'd call solid logic either. And again, Bryce actually does get credit for the part he played in our wins, even as a rookie when he was at his worst. I know you wanna spin some sort of logic that denies that idea, but it ain't working... and it isn't going to. Your positions here from the very first post in this thread are all emotion based. It's not a good look. As said numerous times already, I want toove on from Bryce just as much as you do, but you really need to make better, more logical arguments. These posts ain't it.