Mr. Scot

They've already put out what they want, and it's been discussed in this thread.

Nothing close to what they want. What I would offer, they wouldn't accept.

We already don't have anywhere near enough ammo to get him without severely mortgaging our future. If the charges jare dropped, that price goes up even further, potentially way up. Yes, we'd have a franchise quarterback. Also a sh-tty team around him, our best draft picks gone for years, no cap room to sign free agents plus Matt Rhule as a head coach. That is not a path to a winning team.

My eight year old grandson wants what he wants without any thought to cost, effort required or circumstances. Sadly, we've got adults on here who think the same way about franchise quarterbacks.

You get that we can't just add him without giving up significant resources, right? Our team is way more than just a quarterback away. And giving up those things (plus the cap) makes it infinitely harder to build a good team around him. Plus if you do that before his legal issues are resolved, you risk giving those things up for nothing.

If the charges are dropped, multiple bidders will drive the price up. If the charges stick, why would you want him?

Our defense isn't as good as you think it is. To add to that, we'd possibly have to include one of our top defensive players in a trade offer, making it even worse.

General expectation is that nothing will happen until there's at least some resolution on the criminal charges. Some teams might be willing to deal with the lawsuits, probably looking for conditions like Ross did in Miami. But others (i.e. the dumb ones) will take the risk and jump in. Here's to hoping we're not that dumb.

With multiple bidders? Including several with way more trade ammunition than us? Not likely.

The Texans want at least three first round picks, plus two other assets (either players or high picks). With multiple teams interested, why should they lower their demands?

You don't have to predict it. They've already put it out.

Also means there's no incentive for the Texans to back down on their asking price. No way in hell we should even consider that.

Oy... Yeah, that's possible.

No it didn't...

Nothing. This isn't new information. It's a rehash of a report from Aaron Wilson that we've already seen and discussed...extensively.

It's the same story we already heard. It isn't new information.

Power and desperation are a really really bad combination.

Clip from Panthers Confidential...

Regarding the timing... So yeah, he'd normally have been part of those conversations. They'll be going through a good chunk of the offseason with no one in that spot. I'm not worried though because pretty sure Dan Morgan's "got dis".

Or a Dan Morgan one...

Same reason people go to the Lions or the Jags, promotions and/or connections. I was hoping Morgan could pry Lake Dawson away from them as a college scouting director but they hired someone else for that job. Pro scouting director? If Fitterer's old friend (and former Panthers scout) Trent Kirchner is looking to bail, he'd be a great hire.

A little more... First thought would be someone from the Bills or the Seahawks, and there are some good people to be had from either staff.

Thing is, Allen was generally considered to be a hard worker and good at his job. My worry here is whether this is a Matt Rhule move or Fitterer/Morgan. Rhule has final roster say and general team control, but I don't know if that extends to hiring and firing in the front office (which he technically could have if he has Tepper's ear). If it is Rhule, expect the replacement to be someone loyal to him.

Don't think there's anybody left in the front office from the prior regime. (at least not in the personnel area)