Mr. Scot

Riviera "letting Cam be Cam" basically meant he could be as good as he was, but he wasn't going to get any better.

Also this...

Any suggestion that Ron Rivera might have been the best coach to develop any quarterback is one I'm gonna be skeptical of. I've also long felt that the promotion of Mike Shula was a turning point in the wrong direction for Newton. Going with another OC and leaving Shula as Newton's QB coach would have been a much better move. if they were gonna go with Ken Dorsey though, they should have at least let him coach.

Some of his other measurements though... First round might be high, but Breer makes a good point.

Igo talked about Hurney and Rivera being afraid to challenge him for fear they'd make him mad. More than one person said Ken Dorsey was more like a buddy than a coach, but look at what Dorsey's been able to do for Josh Allen. I get the feeling that if we knew everything, we'd probably find out that the old regime was even worse than we ever knew.

Football fans sometimes act like guys that are missing old girlfriends. We see an athletic quarterback and we say "Oh my gosh, it's Cam Newton". We see a fast, undersized receiver and we say "Look, it's Steve Smith". And yes, it's possible that someone could come out who's as good as those guys, but we need to be really careful about projecting.

Two more came out today. Fourteen lawsuits have already been filed, with potentially ten more in the pipeline.

I'm not so sure about that. Pre #metoo I could see it, but these days it's tougher to imagine, especially with 24 accusers. Latest lawsuits are characterizing him as a serial predator, and there is still the possibility of police involvement.

Yeah, The Athletic is subscription only. Worth it, though. I think they've got a dollar a month special on right now.

Are you a subscriber?

Gurley is a free agent. There was a rumor that we worked him out but it came from a phony source.

Sewell went #5 to the Bengals in this mock.

Perhaps should have put this in the draft sub forum but the mods can move it if they're so inclined.

Lance isn't Newton. Sometimes I think people forget just how special an athlete Cam Newton was.

From what I've read, he is (at least for the moment) the starter in Atlanta. It's possible he chose the Falcons for that reason. I honestly think that's a mistake. Based on what I saw of him last year, he's much better suited to be a top end backup than a full time starter.

A trade up would make it more likely.

Maybe if we play him early in the season. By season's end last year, he couldn't handle a full starter's load anymore. We were runningback by committee at that point.

Like I said, you can have those things and fail. However, you can't not have those things and succeed.

Conducted by the beat writers of the respective teams... Four quarterbacks taken in the first four picks, Broncos trade up to take Lance at pick #3, Falcons take Fields, Mac Jones falls to the Bears, Panthers get Kyle Pitts.

Not so much "dunked on" as "misquoted". Verge said Tepper would be interested again if Watson was cleared. And FYI, more accusers have come forward. The count is now at 24, with 14 lawsuits filed and 10 still pending.

He's gonna need 24 good cases. Two new accusers have come out. The count for lawsuits officially filed is at 14.

They are, but there's more to it as well. You can have all of those things and still not be a great quarterback.

I've never seen the work of people who know what they're doing be improved upon by asking for advice from someone who doesn't.

One or two analysts have suggested this might be a good indicator of whether or not the Seahawks are willing to let Wilson have more input on their roster. If I recall correctly, Wilson also advocated the signing of Josh Gordon.

No argument that he kept Marty too long, but he's gone now. Just have to wait and see how well Rhule and Fitterer work together.