Mr. Scot

Bad as that was, Olsen still came off better than Christian Kirksey.

Pretty much... And again, that's how it works. That's why I've always said you have to evaluate tandems and braintrusts rather than just individuals. In football, that's true of GMs and head coaches, quarterbacks and receivers, guards and tackles, etc. etc. If you want a Panthers example, just compare Rivera / Gettleman and Rivera / Hurney.

Actually, it doesn't work like that at all. Two people don't have to be hired together to be in sync. Neither does being hired together guarantee that they will be. Nor does anything about those circumstances prevent an owner from playing one guy against another, or choosing to blame one and absolve the other. Everything you're talking about here is personality driven. And no employment arrangement, arrival circumstance or even prior connection can guarantee harmony or prevent conflict. if you doubt that, ask Jimmy Johnson. The good news for us though is that Reich and Fitterer have by all accounts very similar personalities and approaches that help them work and play well together. Frankly, the notion that two people have to be hired at the same time in order to be harmonious sounds kinda silly.

I sure as hell hope not

I could try, but given that you actually think your gut can you give you a more reliable idea of what's "really happening" than reports from actual coverage, I doubt you'd listen to it anyway (making up your own narrative is always easier than getting the actual facts of course, but hey...) Suffice it to say Reich isn't necessarily looking to throw anybody and everybody under the bus if things go wrong. He prefers a collaborative approach. (hence the numerous "diversity of thought" quotes you might have seen if you paid attention to such things) Fitterer operates the same way, i.e. the way they did it in Seattle. Both he and Reich have expressed such things several times. I get that you wanted (and apparently still want) to dump Fitterer regardless of whether facts support it or not, but it doesn't look like the team agrees. Guess you'll just have to hope he fails, given that you'll wind up looking like a total dumbsh-t if he doesn't

Daryl Worley still around too, apparently

Kaye made kind of a cryptic comment about him yesterday that made me wonder if something was up on that front.

I had (still have) a load of respect for Wilks. Heck, I liked Rivera too. But with both of them, there came a point where I just said "this isn't working".

Regarding a topic that's been discussed a lot around here lately...

I'm honestly not sure either of the Smiths comes back. Wright I could see...

Technically that's what we just did.

So basically, there was never any realistic circumstance where Corral was gonna stick around.

Butler was with the Giants?

That arguably depends on your skill in the hiring area. If you can find the right people to do the nuts and bolts type jobs, then that leadership style might still be effective. That said, Wilks was a big fan of Al Holcomb as a DC, so it would seem he might not be appreciably better in that area than his former boss (the one currently in DC) was.

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Not as good as Frank, If we're being honest. Now that said, I never did put the majority of the blame for that disaster on Wilks. Having success under Bidwill and Keim probably would have taken divine intervention.

Littleton back with the Texans again...

And now from the "you couldn't make this stuff up" department...

I definitely get the impression you don't have a clue about how Frank Reich operates

Bidwill is one of those owners that allows me to look at David Tepper and say "Well, it could be worse" There's also the guy that owns this team...

You're in luck then, because our current head coach and GM seem to be working pretty well with each other. The two of them share similar approaches and ideas when it comes to roster building.

Hell, some of the same people claiming the price might be too high were ready to give up more than that for Deshaun Watson I wasn't a big fan of trading all the way up to #1 myself...until I saw what we actually ended up paying. It was nowhere near as bad as I might have expected. And yeah, if Young works out it's pretty much worth it.

I'm definitely not a law scholar, but "Hey judge, would you mind ordering this evidence destroyed?" just somehow sounds...off to me Could one of our resident legal eagles offer some insight?

I seriously doubt we're going into Week 1 with five tight ends.

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