Mr. Scot

The spirit of Thieves Avenue lives on "It's not about the year; it's about a philosophy, it's about a mentality, a way of life, a tradition if you will," Washington said in 2018 when he was defensive coordinator. "It carries on. From one year to the next, the next group of players or the next group, they adapt it, and they carry the torch." Jackson learned the ways from guys like Tre Boston and Mike Adams and Kurt Coleman, and others. He's now the old guy at his position, so he loves that it's coming back.

Was it? I only recall a hearing a very few players actually speak out in support of Rhule, and one of those was Robbie Anderson. Forget the public speaking though. It's not hard to watch the games and see that the team plays harder for Wilks than they did for Rhule. That's a way bigger indicator of their true feelings than comments to the media.

Or he wants the rebuild to take seven years

But the numbers said he was coming back in MVP form... ...unless that was all bullsh-t

You offer a massive contract and full control

Yeah, that's a way more thorough description of the actual process than I've seen from anyone before.

No one that works in the NFL, it sounds like...

Via our old friend Brandon Beane (retweeted by Mike Kaye)... Basically, if someone looks in the general direction of a certain player, they're trying to trade for him.

...unless you have an offensive coach who knows how to use those talents.

Didn't post the whole thing.

From the article: “It is crazy to think the Panthers got almost a whole draft in the past two weeks,” one general manager said. The Panthers sent McCaffrey to the 49ers for second-, third- and fourth-round picks in 2023 and a fifth-rounder in 2024. They also moved wide receiver Robbie Anderson to the Cardinals for a sixth-rounder in 2024 and a seventh-rounder in 2025. “I think the six draft picks is the best (haul),” another general manager said. “They’re loading up for a QB next year. Either trade up or put good players around the new QB.” The Panthers, who are currently in line for the third pick in April, are in desperate need for a quarterback after back-to-back offseason trades for Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield haven’t panned out. They’re in an obvious rebuild, which they officially declared by firing head coach Matt Rhule and trading the franchise’s most popular player in McCaffrey, but they’ll begin to clear their books from those contracts in the offseason. They just need to be able to hit on their quarterback in the draft. “I like what the Panthers did with the collection of picks for McCaffrey,” an executive said. “It was what they needed with their situation.” The assistant coach added, “Long term, the Panthers will benefit most, because they have to fully rebuild.” From the 49ers side... The general opinion was that the McCaffrey trade was mutually beneficial. Hard to argue after McCaffrey racked up three touchdowns Sunday when the 49ers beat the Rams, 31-14. “Instant splash,” the coach said. But there’s one concern. “Great for Carolina, tons of risk for San Francisco,” an executive noted. “He better stay healthy. And even if he does, is it because you managed his workload? Is that why you traded for him? To manage his workload?” A general manager agreed, “That’s a big haul for a running back who has been injured.” It’s a valid trepidation. McCaffrey missed 23 games from 2020-21. And even though he was healthy this past offseason, the Panthers limited the 26-year-old’s reps in training camp and kept him out of the preseason. If McCaffrey does stay healthy, though, as he did for his first three years in the league and again this season, the star running back has already shown what type of difference he can make for the 49ers. And that’d make it a win-win.

Might be the framework for a Burns extension...

Take a look at the other bidders for the Broncos, or maybe even the Panthers.

Switch it to WTF...

For context.... Here's a look at the Panthers' 2023 picks. — Their own first-rounder — Their own second-rounder — San Francisco's second-rounder — San Francisco's third-rounder — Their own fourth-rounder — San Francisco's fourth-rounder — Their own fifth-rounder Full list of Panthers draft picks for 2023

So...bring him back?

Might depend on who we hire though. Shane Steichen, for example. He and Wilks we're colleagues back in San Diego.

Mostly agree, but I could potentially argue for a couple of guys. Jeff Nixon is a guy I know Rhule is personally close to, but he's actually got a pretty good amount of NFL experience away from Rhule. Throw in too that he's the guy most directly involved with D'Onta Foreman and Chubba Hubbard. Similar story with Kevin Gilbride. He's got a decent resumé without Rhule. I can see someone keeping him around. Of the two, I'd be more into keeping Nixon.

This is what I expect to be near universal. Did make one mistake: Probably should have included Steve Wilks as an option to keep (assuming he doesn't get the head coaching job). I'd also argue for Al Holcomb as a linebacker coach.

I don't think LG is trying to scare you. He's just talking about what the rules are.

I get that,but unless a new guy brings along a better OL coach, I'd love to keep Campen.

For context, this is a general question outside the one of who we get as next year's coach. What I'm wondering is how many members of our current staff fans would prefer to have remain aboard. I know some might automatically say "none" but I think most would look at at least one or two. Starting off, here are the coaches with no significant connections to Matt Rhule outside their tenure with the Panthers: Offensive Coordinator Ben McAdoo Wide Receivers Coach Joe Dailey Offensive Line Coach James Campen Assistant Offensive Line Coach Robert Kugler Defensive Line Coach Paul Pasqualoni Pass Rush Specialist Don Johnson Special Teams Coordinator Chris Tabor Chris Tabor and James Campen (and by extension his apprentice, Robert Kugler) are guys I expect pretty much everyone wants back. Beyond those guys though, it starts to get a little hazy. Where it gets even hazier is when you look at the guys who were more connected to Rhule. Two (Sean Ryan and Al Holcomb) really only have a shoestring tie to the fired coach. Others are far more extensively attached. The list of Rhule adjacent coaches, with an explanation of their connection, follows: Quarterbacks Coach Sean Ryan - Was on the Giants staff with Rhule for a single season Defensive Coordinator / Assistant Head Coach - Defense Al Holcomb - Same connection as Ryan; graduated from Temple but long before Rhule got there Assistant Quarterbacks Coach / Pass Game Coordinator Matt Lombardi - Was with Rhule at Baylor for two recent years but was with the Dolphins at the time Rhule got the Panthers job Runningbacks Coach / Assistant Head Coach - Offense Jeff Nixon - Baylor guy who followed Rhule to the Panthers, also one year with Rhule at Temple for a total of four years, does have significant NFL coaching experience Tight Ends Coach Kevin M Gilbride - Was on staff with Rhule three years at Temple and one with the Giants in the 2000s; his dad was also a Rhule colleague in New York Assistant Defensive Line Coach Terrance Knighton - Played for Rhule three years at Temple; never coached with him (or much at all really) till Carolina Linebackers Coach / Defensive Run Game Coordinator Mike Siravo - Served under Rhule for seven yars at both Temple and Baylor in addition to one earlier year at Temple before following him to the Panthers Cornerbacks Coach \ Director of Player Evaluation Evan Cooper - Second longest tenured Rhule guy stretching back to 2013 minus a small break; also followed Rhule from Temple to Baylor to the NFL; considered a "right hand man" and one of Rhule's closest lieutenants Strength and Conditioning Coach Jeremy Scott - the third staff member to follow Rhule through all three of his most revcent stops over the past seven years before joining the Panthers ... NOTE: I don't really expect many (or possibly any) of the guys on this list to get votes to stay but you never know

To be fair, both guys did it to themselves. But yeah, Rivera has been along for the ride on a couple of ownership disasters.

For context: - Per Clay, the easiest remaining schedule belongs to the Falcons - Our other NFC South rivals sit at #10 (Saints) and #15 (Bucs) - Five contending teams (Ravens, Eagles, 49ers, Cowboys and Chiefs) sit at #s 2 through 6 - The two teams currently ahead of us in draft order sit at 16 (Lions) and 28 (Texans)

More of a bullsh-tter. He regularly posts claims regarding things that didn't actually happen. It's why most people ignore him.