kungfoodude

This smells of a pretty bad spanking. Bet TB +7.5/8 before it hits 10+.

I guess he must have gotten banged up against Arizona. Or these just could be nagging injuries that they finally said "fug it" to.

I just saw him being listed as questionable as of Friday. I(and I guess a lot of people) must have missed that. Damn.

It's not all on Bryce in that regard. When our coaching staff goes heavy passing attack, across Dalton and Bryce, it is rarely a recipe for success. We just don't have the personnel for it. Our pass catchers lack elite talent and our OL is solid in pass blocking but dominant in run blocking. Without a credible run threat, the whole offense is substantially less capable. We just have to hope Boone and Blackshear can hit these holes that OL is making enough to keep the offensive playcallers from utterly abandoning the run or starting to get too gimmicky with the playcalling to compensate.

Honestly, I am not sure that is likely to happen minus Chuba. I suspect the coaching staff will compensate by going hardcore passing(60+%) over these last two contests and that is really not our identity as a team yet. IMO. I hope we at least see them battle like they did against Dallas versus some of the early season stompings. I also hope we don't kill all Bryce's momentum in these last two games. I won't lie, very nervous about these last two games now.

IIRC, my preseason prediction was something in the 2-5 win range(maybe 3-6?). Ended up being correct largely due to the reasons I made, which was the worst talent on the roster in the history of the franchise. But....it didn't look like what I expected. Bryce has earned a shot at being a FT starter in 2025 after a horrifying start and benching. Never thought that would happen. I figured either massive bust or he would recover and improve from day one. The OL was not as disjointed as I expected, even after Corbett went down(which I and about 89% of the Huddle predicted would happen). In fact the OL and Chuba appears to basically be the core of the entire roster. If we get a true, starting caliber center this may be our identity for years. The money spent on the interior paid off in a way I didn't expect. Moton got back to his solid play and Ewonku finally looked like a long term solution at LT(albeit likely never an elite LT). Unfortunately the draft picks were really quite bad, which was not a huge surprise as most were developmental players. The rookie bright lights, however, were brighter than we have seen in a long time with Sanders and Coker possibly looking like future building blocks. The defense, well.....what can you say? As bad as advertised. Very few, if any of these guys will likely be on our roster in 2 years. This is an area that will likely take years to build. One of the few shining lights was Horn. While he is having arguably his worst season statistically, he has largely remained healthy the entire campaign. I do think that he does not mesh well with Evero's defensive philosophy. IMO, you gotta make a choice there. Is Horn a guy you want to spend a bunch of money extending if your DC isn't going to utilize him to maximize his talents? Overall, we are still a deeply flawed roster with several years of building before we can hope to finally break to back to back winning season wall but the grit and competitive spirit the team has shown in the back half of the season is definitely a faint light at the end of this tunnel. We just need a good draft(after literally almost a decade of poor drafting) process and another pretty good free agency to keep this momentum going. I started off the season utterly apathetic about W's and L's and the team got me to the point of being upset about losing to TB and Philly. So, they actually won me over. I am all in on 2025.

We can never know to the level the team does but there definitely wasn't PUBLIC news of him being injured. It's a little odd in the timing, hence the raised eyebrow. Could be nothing at all, obviously. I wouldn't think that would behoove a young coach to make such a move when he is trying to win games and gather momentum for next year. I will say the odds of winning these last two games really fell off a cliff. Might be a good time to jump on TB and ATL to cover.

Lol. Right. I am the emotional one. I make one sentence and one meme gif and you write a novella on how upset you are that I don't see the logic(nor does the coaching staff) in playing a lot of these 5th string players. Keep in mind this is in a season in which PS players have started multitudes of games. Think maybe, IDK, there could be a logical reason for that? No, no, I am sure you are much more equipped than an NFL coaching staff that sees these players every single day of practice for months on end to determine PT for literally guys barely hanging on to a roster spot behind your keyboard. Carry on keyboard warrior!

Yes, he is able to get open more consistently than those guys, without question. But it isn't just his hands, his body positioning and tracking on a lot of these flubbed balls is terrible. He is a deeply fundamentally flawed WR. Now, luckily these are things that CAN typically be improved on but the question is how much and is he able/willing to do so? In our franchise experience, this is very rare. It's all on him. He has to put in the work and really want this. I hope he does because it will be another long term hit to the roster through draft....once again.

Now this feels like tanking.

Sure, what year do you want me to go back to? 2000?

Lol. Mr. emotional over here. It's a dumb post. Let the coaching staff handle coaching doen the stretch.

Yeah, this is the same thing TMJ and Mingo guys said. Used to this non-fact based argument. YoU jUsT hAtE hIm!!!! Well as someone who actually WANTS the team to do well, how exactly does that help me?

13th best OG's start in the NFL all the time. QB's don't.

But that's basically my point. Take a guy that might make a difference. The 13th best QB is rarely going to be that guy. Now, if someone falls into your lap, that's fine.

Also the history of Penn St. pass rushers is pretty rough over the past 20+ years.

And all the guys that we drafted that people here said would "show us" when they left. TMJ, Mingo, Corral, Grier, etc, etc. All these guys that were either bums or replacement level players. We have guys that have left here great and kept being great. Peppers, CMC, Luvu, etc. But the bulk of the guys that didn't pan out here, they also didn't pan out elsewhere.

I could see that minus the league's worst roster that we have. We literally need everything from special teamers to starters. The hit rate on other positions in later rounds is far higher than QB. Eventually once you get an actual talented roster, take a flier on a guy every couple of seasons or so. I mean the examples of a 4th rounder or later panning out into a regular starter since 2000 are basically Purdy, Minshew, Prescott, Cousins, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassell, Derek Anderson, David Garrard, Tom Brady, and Marc Bulger. So that is essentially less than one hit every two years from the 4th to 7th round. We just aren't in a position to make wild swings yet.

Well, TBH, Mayfield was pretty developed. Darnold needed more stops than ours and I also don't still buy into him. Honestly, the instances of players leaving here and THEN shining are pretty rare. It's a real testament to how poor we are at talent evaluation, IMO. We will see with the new regime. The one thing I like as that they seem to move on quickly if someone isn't going to work out. I do appreciate that, oddly

This is an insane post.

Learning how to win is better than good draft position. Truthfully, it isn't about position, it's about evaluation. We suck at the later. Until you fix that issue, position will never matter at all.

Mid to late is the time to gamble on a QB but I honestly wouldn't. Take a gamble on an OL/DL/special teams guy which actually fill a big need. It's cheap and easy to get a mediocre 3rd string QB every offseason.

It is highly unlikely he ever becomes top 7 in this class, TBH. It's a strong class and he is not a strong player. He is also near last in that group in drops and catch %. Again, it isn't just stats, he struggles with aspects of his game that a lot of these guys don't.

Sure, if you don't count another 1k WR taken two spots after XL in the 2nd.

IMO Xavier Legette: Very up and down season, with more downs than ups. The hands/body catcher thing is a MASSIVE red flag. He has all the talent in the world but if you are this deficient in your fundamentals, it is a very steep learning curve at this level. I suspect we are going to be talking about him as another failed Panthers WR pick in another season or two. Jonathan Brooks: What more could be said that hasn't already been said? I feel for the kid but taking a RB in the 2nd round is not smart. Taking a RB coming off an ACL tear is WILDLY moronic. One of the worst draft decisions in the Tepper era. Trevin Wallace: A developmental pick taken a little higher than he should have been and inconsistent when he saw action. Overall, he showed some flashes and should be a part of our backup/rotation for another season or so to develop. Hopefully he becomes a starting caliber player by season three. JT Sanders: Terrible start to his rookie season that quickly evolved in a meteoric rise but subsequently fell off the map after a scary injury. Absolutely should be a featured player on this offense for years to come. Possibly the best TE since Greg retired. The Rest: About as expected. Some decent flashes from Smith-Wade but these are all backup level players, so anything we get is great. There are no "busts" after the 4th round.