kungfoodude

I know....I think we are close to a 2nd Cup too.

More than two Super Bowls for even elite QB's is relatively rare. Get me one and I will be happy. Anything else is icing.

Having an elite QB makes up for a lot of flaws on any team and it can elevate you to SB contention in a hurry. That is the advantage of going the elite QB route. Otherwise you need an elite team to cover up for your QB deficiency. The instances of the former happening are much more than the latter over the last 25 years.

Ian did have a lot to do with it. It will continue to decline as fan interest wanes, to be sure. But Ian had a big impact.

Yep. I took an L on mine.

I don't really know that I consider Fitterer that kind of guy either. He might be or he might not be. Regardless, someone there has to understand football at the level necessary to see the same vision as the prospective coach and understand how likely their methods are to be successful. The funny thing in hindsight is how we almost all got excited about some of the ridiculous BS that Rhule was selling. Not many of us as laymen saw through what now seems to obvious was just obvious snake oil.

I think if you want to get that innovative guy, you have to get people to interview him that understand what that looks like. Tepper doesn't. He can't ask in depth football questions and have any idea what is BS and what isn't. That is quite literally how we ended up with Matt Rhule. So he has to get some trusted and more importantly KNOWLEDGEABLE football people around him to find that next head coach. He can't be the guy making that choice because he quite simply just doesn't know enough to discern that. Until he has the right kind of support system around him in the organization, we don't have a lot of hope. Tepper isn't going to be able to bridge that knowledge gap my himself.

Well this was my support ticket.

Chuba is a personal favorite of Ms. Rhule. That's probably about it.

You think he wants to work for Rhule? You think we had to get a guy like McAdoo by accident?

FTFY

If that can be maintained(OL) we will be in good shape foelr the future.

Wow. It's early yet but those are very impressive.

3 WR, 2 TE AND a Flex?? JFC. That is brutal. Yeah, I mean in that scenario, it's just largely blind gambling. Pick someone that is in the top 4 WR's on a decent offense ans hope for the best. Maybe look at utilization rates vs. production and see if there is something that doesn't quite match up that could change.

Yeah, the Panthers just don't have good fantasy players so far. The odds of that getting better aren't great. Just a completely dysfunctional looking offense.

No, that's exactly what I mean. I wouldn't make a gamble on a WR for a team that has a bottom 5 passing offense. Too much risk. Better off doing the high flying offense/lower usage WR, injury replacement or match up opportunity gambles.

You'd be nuts to have any Panthers WR at this point. The only way that makes sense is a longer term gamble that we will get our issues worked out in the passing game. That's a luxury for someone with a deep roster at WR.

After last season, I could completely believe Robby graded out worse than some DE's. That was one of the worst season's we have seen at the Panthers in a while. That's saying something considering some of our WR busts.

Well all these things are hallmarks of.....being bad.

In the modern NFL, you aren't going to last long unless you tailor your schemes to the strengths of your personnel. We are very bad at that on offense so far in 2022.

Well watching the offense definitely shows that to be completely untrue. At the bare minimum, McAdoo is trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. At the NFL OC level, that's really stupid.

Well the modern NFL offenses typically focus fairly heavily on tweaking offenses to make their best players(especially QB's) more effective. We are literally doing the exact opposite of that under Ben McAdoo. This isn't an offense that many QB's wouldn't have some struggles with. But it doesn't help that we are taking a flawed QB and making him operate outside his comfort zone.

I think the injury was real but I do also think Rhule would have found some way to keep PJ.

We wouldn't have found out because Rhule wouldn't have played him.

Sam Darnold's.