kungfoodude

Whew. Not a catch. fug.

How the actual fug.

Are you shitting me.

JFC. Beat them again.

That was the game to Smith.

Only need a FG in a dome, though.

Wow. Stafford almost as clutch as Bryce by those stats.

Hold on, you pussies.

Dave Canales calling plays for Atlanta.

GET THIS GW FG

YES

He has had several this season he just didn't try adequately to get two hands on it. Not saying it was the majority but it was too many.

There isn't a lot of comparison in results between Surtain and Horn. Also, look at the "declined" column. That is where the 9 comes from.

It's hard to account for scheme. I think you default to ignoring it when you compare because sometimes those players were great in thoss schemes because they fit them perfectly(Norman being an example).

That's another stellar pair. I will take a look at them too. I think I will try to do the best "pair" season versus this season that Horn/Jackson are having.

I mean, other than being the 2nd most penalized WR in the entire NFL? Edit: Most if you count declined penalties.

I will take a look at that.

Long overdue, if so. I hope he is benched Saturday. I honestly hope this is the last we see of him in a Panthers uniform.

I think that is a symptom of his overall tackling issues this season. He really needs to buckle down and make that a priority to fix this offseason. If he can be a sure tackler, it elevates him to being much closer to a truly elite CB.

I would honestly rather healthy scratch XL and activate Renfrow at this point. At least he won't be actively hurting the team.

Willis would have never worked out here. Green Bay has a track record for developing QB's and we absolutely do not. Now, would I have taken Willis over Corral? Probably. I was also REALLY not a fan of Willis after seeing him several times in college. Had a ton of very bad habits for a prospective NFL player.

I need to do a side by side on that and see how their best compared.

The variety of penalties he has gotten flagged for is truly eye opening. He really is overwhelmingly our least disciplined and arguably dumbest player. It's bananas that he gets playing time.

In fairness to Ikey, he seems to be trending steadily upward. His penalties have been cut to 50% of his career average(5 versus the 10.3 career average) and although his sacks allowed are up to 5 this year, that is still below his career highs. I am far, far less concerned with guys like Horn or Ikey than I am Bryce. That's a real, immediate issue.

I had to add this to this thread after seeing it while looking at overall Panthers penalties for another thread. Xavier Legette has somehow managed to be tied for team lead in penalties taken this season. https://www.nflpenalties.com/player/xavier-legette-carolina-panthers?year=2025 He is tied for 2nd on the team in total False Start penalties. He has also somehow managed to get two Illegal Touching of a Pass penalties this year. To make clear how insane this is, he currently accounts for 50% of all of these penalties in the entire NFL this year.