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Gabriel is a Bryce level guy, for sure. They are good comps, actually. Bryce is early better. Now, I don't think their fans would be pining for Bryce, though. They'd more likely rather have Flacco back. The Jets I am unsure of. I definitely would take Tyrod on his contract over Bryce on his contract 100/100 times. The Saints are a good one. Rattler is basically the good version of Bryce, which is to say, not very good. I would be willing to bet the majority of them would still ride with Shough because of the lack of seeing him yet.

Moving backwards by what measures?

That's the hype versus expectations. Lawrence is immensely worse on that scale. Now price obtained versus result is immensely against Bryce, however. I agree Lawrence is clearly the better NFL QB. I do genuinely think he is also the bigger bust, however. That generational talent tag doesn't come around often. He is one of the worst to ever get it in my lifetime. If you asked me which situation I would rather be in today? Ours. Lawrence already got a mega contract. We still have the chance to get out relatively cheaply. Now if that doesn't happen....oh wee mayne.

I don't think he really has ever adjusted to the NFL and I have long running concerns that he doesn't actually have NFL level drive.

For next to nothing. Would have liked to have made that upgrade.

I guess my question would be, what fanbases in the NFL look at Bryce Young and say, "Boy, wish I had that."

TBH, Trevor has been pretty bad. Not Bryce bad but he is securely a bottom third starting QB. Not what you want for your "generational talent" QB. If you ignore costs associated with obtaining, Lawrence has arguably been a bigger bust than Bryce. With the costs factored, that's a much more complex argument.

A few things: - Delete Twatter. It's poison. - Had we done this last week, it's POSSIBLE we would have won. Stopping Cook was a tall order. - Young never throwing for over 200 again is just not logical. He had a 300+ game this season so although he only throws for over 200 yards in about a third of his career games, he does do it. Just not nearly enough - I think we have some evidence we aren't a bad team. I don't think we are a good team at all, either.

Panthers QB's with Minimum of 15 Games Started as a Panther QB Passing YPG Bridgewater: 248.9 Newton: 223.5 Beuerlein: 215.1 Delhomme: 211.6 Darnold: 203.9 Collins: 184.6 Young: 175.5 Peete: 165.8 Weinke: 140.7 QB Rating Bridgewater: 92.1 Beuerlein: 87.7 Newton: 85.4 Delhomme: 82.6 Young: 78.2 Darnold: 77.3 Peete: 76.6 Collins: 66.0 Weinke: 61.4

Bryce versus his fellow 2023 QB Class in 300+ yard passing games per game started. CJ Stroud(9 of 40): 22.5% Aidan O'Connell(1 of 17): 5.9% Bryce Young(2 of 36): 5.6% Will Levis(1 of 21): 4.8% Anthony Richardson(0 of 15): 0.0% Dorian Thompson-Robinson(0 of 5): 0.0% Jaren Hall(0 of 2): 0.0% McKee(0 of 1): 0.0% Jake Haener(0 of 1): 0.0% Clayton Tune(0 of 1): 0.0%

Bryce's Career To Date passing yards by games. Includes two games he did not start but played. 2023(179.8/GM) Less Than 100: 1 101-150: 4 151-200: 6 201-250: 4 251+: 1 2024(171.6/GM) Less Than 100: 3 101-150: 1 151-200: 3 201-250: 3 251+: 3 2025(173.8/GM) Less Than 100: 0 101-150: 4 151-200: 3 201-250: 0 251+: 1 Percentage of Games Less Than 100: 10.5% 101-150: 23.7% 151-200: 31.6% 201-250: 18.4% 251+: 13.2% So, in 2/3 of his career games played he is under 201 yards passing.

This was a terrible podcast. A bunch of uninformed homers that had worse takes than the bottom 10% of the Huddle. I listened to a handful of podcasts this past offseason in search of new Panthers material since John Ellis doesn't do his pod anymore and The 4 Man Rush don't either. Immediately deleted it after the handful I listened to. Truly terrible.

Sure. In two years, I will.

Yeah, get him checked out and let him largely manage it.

Us finding ways to win bodes well for us in the future. At least we are building a core of players that know HOW to win at the NFL level.

It looked like a groin injury he was able to play through. I think that really depends on severity. What we don't want is that strain to become a tear. I think it's safe to say that the rest of the season without Rico is not likely to end in many more wins.

It's also nice to see it be on the backs of a what appears to be a decent core of young players.

I am certain that tape will be one of the first things his agent throws on the table.

https://www.packers.com/video/game-highlights-packers-vs-panthers-week-9-2025 He wasn't down. His momentum was stopped but he was still not down. That happens all the time on goal like plays. A player gets stuffed, they aren't down but they either are able to extend to the goal line or move forward on the pile of humanity. Think about all the plays you have seen where someome is "tackled" in the open field but somehow they land on an opposing player without touching the turf. They can still continue advancing the ball if they are able to get up. Same as the opposing team could strip the ball away because they weren't down yet.

Well Baker was clearly a good NFL QB and Darnold was clearly not. It appears that Darnold may have turned the corner, that's not a check I would personally cash. I mean, the fact that Baker immediately played significantly better with the Rams was pretty much a dead giveaway. That didn't take time, that was the same season.

People are also jumping to the conclusion that Darnold would have figured it out here. I very much disagree. He needed a place where he could be a backup for a while with no pressure. So all the pining over him was pointless. Highly unlikely he would do anything but continue to fail had he stayed here. The one that got away was Baker. He was not as bad as he seemed here. He was always a good player but we were a two bit, middle of the road college program grasping at straws. Had we invested the time in Baker that we have done for Bryce, history would have been quite a bit different. To what end, who knows? Doesn't matter. There are a million hindsight stories that are very unkind to this franchise. There is no one that is more significant than the other. It is what it is.

Yeah, Shanahan helped him a lot. Also, I think he is the type of player that needs about 7-8 years in the NFL to mature. People forget that he had a lifetime total of three years playing QB going into college at USC. He should have stayed in school his entire career and his NFL transition may not has been as rough.

Eh. I mean you gotta catch that. He knows it. I don't think this is losing your job worthy. He just needs to fix the concentration.

I wouldn't expect to see Hunt back this season.

So do Panthers, you stupid midget ass bitch.