kungfoodude

Flourish is a strong word. I think he would be adequate until we find a true franchise QB.

Jags have 6 receivers at 9.7% drop rate or higher.

That's why you see "outs" after about 2-3 years in most of these deals. They look nuts on the surface but they are largely more short term nuts than long term nuts. A lot of them also have poisonous terms, as well. Look at Lawrence and his price jump to $70-80 mil a year when it is easy to cut them. That's so they can renegotiate or get out.

Well, I took a look at the Bryce "Eras" Tour and it seems like that it somewhat breaks down to.....well he just attempted more passes downfield. Breaking it down like the author of the Twatter post did in the "This Season" chunk versus 2024 Weeks 8-18 and I also added "Rest of his Career" which is basically all of 2023 and the two games in 2024 prior to Benching. Initial Bryce(2023-Week 2 2024) Post Benching Bryce(Weeks 8-18 2024 AKA The Glory Games) Modern Bryce(2025 Season) If you look, during the "Glory Games" era of Bryce his 10+ downfield targets jumped from around 32% over his overall attempts to almost 43% of his overall attempts. Maybe it's as simple as that since he isn't testing them deep, they don't have to worry about him targeting them. It's an interesting look at the breakdown of those timelines.

I am not going to "rank" those, because that's hours of work. I will do a little breakdown of those elements in the game stretches he is talking about and post it in a little bit.

The Kaepernick collusion was extremely obvious. It didn't help that he was a below average starting QB. Ask Watson if controversies matter when the league views you as elite. Yes eventually they "gave" him a shot but it was as much a PR stunt from the NFL as anything. That one was pretty cut and dried. IDC, fug him. He made fun of Cam. I care if he is a locker room cancer. I have no idea his level of NFL play because he hasn't played. My personal opinion is there is no fuging way he could be that much worse than Dillon Gabriel.

Is "attempt %" the percentage of overall attempts that are 20+?

The outrage should definitely be the poster suggesting we view him as an appreciating asset. That's literally the most insane take I could possibly imagine. He has depreciated if anything. Anything above a conditional 7th is pure desperation. It's just as likely he simply gets released in the offseason and is generally available.

I am not saying it's impossible but it seems improbable. Also, the overall benefit of doing this is very minimal. The collusion against Colin Kaepernick had obvious roots. The collusion against Lamar Jackson or the continuance of 100% guaranteed QB contracts in general in the post Watson era made obvious sense. Colluding against a middle round QB prospect just doesn't make much sense. There have been more arrogant folks than Sanders and far worse human beings that didn't need any sort of collusion. I think it's more likely that he generally turned off a bunch of people with how he handled the process and also that he wasn't viewed as a good enough prospect to be worth some of the media headache. That has happened to ample prospects and NFL veterans before. Sometimes it just isn't worth the headache. Hell, we had one of those. Diontae Johnson. Notice his employment status currently.

Jones would be what he is if he was on this team, a fairly middle of the road game manager. Still and upgrade but probably not worth the price the 49ers may want for him. If it's not something stupid in terms of ask and he doesn't want something even more stupid in terms of longish term contract, I am okay with a middling game manager until we can do better through the draft. The one thing that wouldn't be terrible is some stability at QB. That has almost never happened under Tepper.

I am not seeing that graphic. Can you upload it to the thread?

Which, it's not a difficult sell to say that the NFL colludes against players. There are ample examples of it. The specificity of that allegation is just wild, though. If that really were true, the whole fuging system is fixed. I am just not inclined to believe that.

Okay, so you really haven't watched this season. That makes a lot of sense. Damn dude, you really are a Clemson super homer.

I guess what would be considered "fair?" Honestly, probably anything past the 2nd round is a stretch.

His track record as a GM in the draft from 2021-2025 has been pretty good. Free agency has been a mixed bag, for sure.

Explain the logic on a 3rd string rookie QB appreciating in draft value? He has played zero snaps. What caused his value to rise?

Honestly, I don't have a problem with the deal they signed. It's actually far more team friendly than most of the other top 15 QB contracts. It was a fair deal all around. Don't love the player but it's not a major ordeal to move on after a couple of seasons.

He is more along the lines of a Fitzgerald/Hopkins/etc. Big, rangy guy that wins by running good routes and winning 50/50 balls. He needs to get his hands stronger and improve his concentration. A fairly significant chunk of his issues have been off target throws. That has plagued the entire receiving corps with Bryce. He's just so incredibly inaccurate as a passer and his timing is awful. I think TMac will be fine. We just need him to keep working to reach his overall ceiling.

I will forever be permanently scarred by the Fitterer "Turn a 1st into 9 7ths!" draft. Just fuging get a good player if they are available, if the board says most of your guys are off it, trade down to a REASONABLE area with APPROPRIATE compensation to avoid overdrafting someone.

Purdy didn't do anything but become one of the most successful 7th round draft picks in NFL history. No one put a gun to their head to sign that deal.

How do you pay attention to them and have not realized he has an injured shoulder? So you just pay attention to the box scores?

Look at his draft and free agency history. He is significantly better than any GM in Panthers history. Low bar, for sure, but there is a reason New England really didn't want him to get away.

If you make moves to stabilize the QB room and turn down his 5th year, there is no real reason to keep him in Carolina for the 2026 season. It's pointless for both parties. Give him a fresh start and turn the page. I don't anticipate that happening. I suspect they will pick up his 5th year and barrel straight into denial mode with the Tepper based assumption that we just aren't good enough to help him win yet.

I would heavily disagree. They have a longer term financial commitment to Purdy and they are very similar level players. Unloading Purdy would be a true roster purge would have to happen. That's destroying the health of the franchise for.....Mac Jones.