kungfoodude

I wouldn't even put a QBR rating/ranking on it. He just needs to show he is the guy. Win close games, make big throws at critical times, don't consistently hurt the team with boneheaded decisions and generally LEAD a very successful offense. And do all that when things are going well and when they aren't. You do all that, and you are the guy. I don't imagine he is likely to be a QBR darling because he is a low completion percentage thrower and will always struggle with TD:INT ratio. Jake wasn't too far off that and he worked out.

100%. The first game of the next season put them on my shitlist forever. I hate them as much as our division rivals(not quite as much as the Pats).

It may change, it may not. The QB and OL are still big question marks, although the overall roster talent appears to be much better than 2020. Last year, it was obvious the Panthers were going to be terrible....and then they weren't quite as terrible as expected. This year....I think it is a complete mystery. We could be good, we could be mediocre or we could be bad. I don't have a good read on what to expect for the first time in many years.

I don't agree or disagree with them ranking us next to last. I understand why they feel that way. That's the big difference, I can see their point of view, whereas you can only see yours. I don't agree or disagree with their rating of him in college. I personally like PFF but it isn't bulletproof. I am definitely aware that PFF college performances/ratings are not a 1:1 translation with PFF NFL performances. If you look at their data alone, you probably aren't going to see a strong correlation with high PFF college ratings and high NFL PFF ratings. Furthermore, they didn't even rank him as their best offensive lineman(or even tackle) in their draft rankings. So, that kind of shows how much stock they even put in their own college ratings to translate to the NFL.

If we extend him for being mediocre, the war drums will be beating for Rhule and his staff to be gone. I see only two logical options; Darnold is the guy and the search is over, Darnold is not the guy and we jettison him.

I have to assume it is true. Ultimately we may never know what percentage of blame went to Hurney versus Rhule and the staff. In the end....it doesn't matter much. Teddy flamed out and he is gone.

If he turns into a viable pass catcher, even better.

I am curious to see if that was the offense or Sam just leans backyard football when it all breaks down(which most gunslingers do) anyway. The one thing we can say about Teddy, is that he rarely ever went off script. I think he'll see plenty of pressure in 2021, so we will get a good side by side of what his tendencies are in this offense versus Gase's.

Odd since you post in a perpetual rage at everything. You really are a marvel of complete lack of self awareness. Or is this some ironic troll? If so, bravo.

This is part of a greater problem with general sports fans. Just because we disagree with something(article, analysis, statistic, etc) doesn't make it invalid. We get way too much confirmation bias in here from the posters. It's natural for everyone to have that to an extent but some people are leaning into that a bit much. Especially when you see such an overreaction to information the person doesn't like or agree with.

The question is, will he get that time here with our current OL? I am not sure our OL is any better than the Jets but our scheme SHOULD help him avoid pressure. It did with Teddy.

I don't think he is even capable of playing that conservative style of football anyway. He has always been a gunslinger. If we or he tried to change that, he'd probably be out of the league in a season. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we just need him to make progress as far as making progressions, making reads and not generally going full Favre.

I didn't really think he needed to explain that but I guess I was wrong. He is talking about first three years in the NFL. That info takes 5 seconds to reference on PFR.

Yeah, I actually watched the games. It helps a lot. It is also a pretty low bar to hit for us.

You realize he said "first three seasons" in his post, right? Read it again.

No, on the field. Other was fine at times but Okung was a better LT as a Panther. But, hard to make an impact when you play less than half the year. In fairness, we still won that trade. Okung's contract was expiring and Turner accomplished literally nothing for San Diego.

I don't think Tremble will factor much into the passing game. He wasn't really that guy in college, so I don't see that happening at the NFL. Well, at least not initially perhaps in a couple of years. I think Arnold is the guy as our pass threat. Tremble is a great blocker, though. I think we might quickly forget the loss of Armah. I didn't like the position we drafted him in but I think he is definitely a day one contributor.

That is just a troll account. That idiot doesn't even post about football. He just gets his panties in a bunch because his feelings get hurt and then lashes out like a toddler that needs a nap. At least Chuck is sometimes entertaining. He's the low rent version of Chuck.

Okung was the best LT we have had since Gross. He just didn't play enough to matter. And, you are just getting upset because people don't agree with your world view. Calm down. This is a discussion board. Prior to you showing up about 2 weeks ago, we discussed things that people disagreed on. It happens.

Agreed. I don't think we are going to return to seeing CMC targeted 130+ times in the passing game for a season. He is a PART of the offense, not the entire offense. I would be pretty disappointed if Darnold isn't testing defenses deep at a substantially higher rate than Teddy did.

Uh...no, I literally said the same thing. You just liked the way I said it better because it had a little hope sprinkled in. Do I believe we are second to last? Very possibly. I would say as we sit here today, easily bottom 10 with a strong case for bottom 5. The thing is, there isn't a great case to be made based on history for this group to be better than last year. Especially without Okung. The free agent signings/acquisitions are not better on paper than what we acquired last year. Frankly, those largely didn't work out. The draft picks we acquired are from a range in the draft where they are statistically less likely to very unlikely to be impact players for us as starters. Does that mean any of them couldn't defy those odds and be good or even great? Of course not. It is not something I would bet any substantial money on because we are counting largely on outliers being successful. That isn't how I like my odds.

Oh you should look at that dolts history recently. I think he might have been the one that was saying crazy, drunk poo last night. I can't keep them all straight. I just assume it is one group of alts since they parrot the same nonsense in every thread.

I did literally say what he said, FWIW. Any preseason rankings are wildly inaccurate guesses....that's what preseason ratings are. Usually people only lose their minds about it when they just don't want to hear it. Ranking us last is not at all unreasonable. By all their metrics ranking the players they have rated, we probably are last. I would ABSOLUTELY place us firmly in the bottom 10 units in the NFL at this juncture, albeit maybe not last. How could you possibly rate us highly given the massive questions along the line? No reasonable person should assume the signings we made and draft picks we have would make us a good offensive line. They have to go out and PROVE that to be wrong. I thought everyone was relatively on the same page with that opinion, TBH. Our QB and OL situation are completely up in the air. Those two groups will likely be the biggest factors in our success or failure this coming season.

Not sure if you have surfed this place recently but the sunshine squad is throwing hissy fits at just about any inkling of criticism or thought process that doesn't include everyone on the roster as an All Pro. You know, standard extremist thought in the modern age? One of these fuging idiots last night kept repeating some poo like "never give up, fight the good fight" or some such drivel. Remember when you could just debate competing points and not have people lose their minds?