kungfoodude

That's what I am saying. We would have gotten boat raced with Bryce.

Man, the Jets really struggle with not being the Jets.

Well, now you see how foolish that second part is.

Or his own QB to draft.

Am I immediately allowed to get rid of the turf, if hired?

Yeah, it's a hell of a thing to expect your new HC to soldier through terrible QB play. In fairness to our previous coaching staff, that is exactly what Tepper made them do. It isn't like Dalton wasn't on the roster last season.

A 6th isn't even worth discussing, IMO. Anything sub 3rd is really just a waste of time.

Fair but $25 mil would be tied for 11th.

These guys have just been playing Madden franchise mode.

We have been through cap hell, we aren't completely out of it so there isn't a great reason to double down when we are as bad of a team as we are. It's about building something sustainable and long term. Paying someone as a top 10 WR when they are not is how you end up having long term issues with cap management and personnel. I would very much like to keep Diontae around but it needs to be at a price that makes sense for our actual future.

Honestly, you aren't gonna get enough to even bother with that.

Baker will have a good year, I agree. Not MVP caliber, IMO. Darnold, well that other shoe is going to drop and a lot of people are gonna get real quiet, IMO. Young isn't relevant. This was a discussion of NFL QB's.

Yeah, I am pretty skeptical about being able to keep him. But, not many other spots give him the opportunity to be a #1 WR, either.

In Week 4. Don't expect those rankings to be the same in Week 18.

He is on a ~$18.4 mil/year deal now. If we go in the 10-15 range, it's a pay cut, not a raise. Hence why it might be very hard to sign him. He is already making top 25 money at the position. At the time he signed his deal, it was more like top 15-20 money. Well staying in that range puts him around $20-24 mil. That is just too much money, IMO.

Well you aren't gonna get special at $7 mil/year very often. Especially for a 29 year old.

Yeah, you don't want to dump talent at basement prices and/or vastly overpay players. We have done too much of that and it has led to our current situation. Nor do you want to flub massive trades like the Young trade and the turned down Burns trade.

https://overthecap.com/player/ashawn-robinson/4759 OTC Valuation at about $10 mil. Also his PFF rating has been high most of the year. It's just hard to stand out when everyone else around you is mostly bad.

We would be foolish to not attempt it unless he perhaps made it clear he has no interest in re-signing here at all. It's a price thing, IMO. We can overpay a bunch of guys on the team because we already have cap issues.

He is literally not young. He will be 29 next season. He is likely to be closer to the end of his career than the beginning. I don't see him playing until he is 34+ years old. Consider that WR is the second lowest average career length position in the NFL.

This is about the most hypocritical statement you have ever made. Also, you would be a terrible GM. That isn't an insult, it's a factual statement quite literally based on the takes you have made in this message board. Very few of your ridiculous, cartoonish personnel opinions have ever panned out. As many have said, it would be insane(also very Panthers, so there is that) to sign a 29 year old WR to a long term 18-22/mil a year deal. That's bananas. Now if he wants something in the 12-15 range at maybe 3 years, by all means, get the deal done.

Yeah, worth that money for sure.

I agree. That said, if it isn't more than a 4th, I don't know that I see the value. Just continuing to be a functional offensive unit is going to be worth more than any 4th round or lower pick in terms of team morale. Also, no reason to move him until close to the Week 10 deadline, either. Teams aren't going to be magically less needy.

Yes, because obviously we just sit on our laurels and do nothing. You would be such an insanely terrible GM.

This is lightspeed insane. Not even Scott Fitterer would do that.