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Yes, I chose that game intentionally. He lost his weapons and his OL struggled; and HE also struggled. He is a much better QB than Bryce at this point; clearly. But even he still struggles when his receivers aren't getting open and he is consistently pressured. Most QBs do. That's the point. The QB gets all the blame and all the praise but there are 11 on the field at a time for a reason.

Speak of the devil. Here is one of the trolls.

Some of you say that. Many are ignorant. I've been on here for a long damn time. There is not much football posting. It's poo posting. It's certainly a symptom of the team sucking for a long time; it's just exhausting. Bryce hasn't performed well but for him to succeed this year he would need to be close to perfect. He hasn't helped himself and he hasn't been helped. He can still be a successful QB. And he has shown some "flashes" of his potential. Not nearly as often as anybody would have hoped.

Do you think he has even an average nfl arm? Yes. Not a strength of his but average. Do you think his size hinders his ability to see the field? Yes, at times. He needs more protection in the G-C-G pocket area or MOVE the pocket to be the most successful. Built just like the Saints did with Brees. Do you think his footwork is worthy of a #1 overall pick? No. He was worthy of the pick coming out; even if it appears that CJ will be the better player. Every expert had them 1A and 1B. He has had a poo year to put it mildly. It does me no good to quit on him because 99% chance he is still the starting QB next season and I want to see some decent football so I'm holding out hope he can still be a better player.

Like CJ did yesterday without his top 2 receivers? It's impossible to have a real football discussion with people on here because there are so many trolls or people posting with extreme hyperbole (HE CAN'T THROW A PASS, HE'S THE WORST EVER, blah blah blah). I'm not even on here spreading rays of sunshine or acting like his poo doesn't stink. Everybody has to constantly hate instead of trying to actually discuss the entire football team.

I agree. We do need to develop a specific scheme that's best suited for our players (including Bryce) instead of going the Reich route of round peg/square hole. I truly think he can/will be successful with solid blocking, some WR talent, and scheme. (yes, I'm disappointed with what we traded for this but it's sunk cost at this point; I'll take above average)

I don't but it's beating a dead horse to argue it. All we can do is hope that the team re-tools and Bryce is a capable player next season with better talent and coaching around him. I don't know if it's likely. But it's the only option we have unless you want to miserable and pull for another 1-17 season to be proven right.

It didn't. The same OL that did some good in run blocking fell flat on their face blocking on almost every passing play. The offense sucks, Bryce included. You can blame 1 player as the sole source all you want but you are wrong.

This is exactly what terrible OL play, bad scheme, and no receiver separation can do to a QB. He already had "unconventional" footwork in the pocket; now he is much more sloppy and bails quickly. He is constantly expecting pressure and his pocket awareness clock is out of skew. He is forcing passes and not patient with developing plays. He is checking behind his back on play action expecting to be hit. He may have struggled even with things going well around him; it's impossible to tell. But his environment has harmed his development tremendously. They need to fix it this offseason with every $$$ and draft pick they have or he will be lost forever (and maybe he was always destined to fail?)

I saw one glaring miss yesterday (the same TD that everybody saw). One play doesn't change the "narrative" that the entire offense blows and blaming one person doesn't work. Everything else was the same poo; except he forced it deep when nobody was open instead of throwing it away.

Not what I'm doing at all. He's the 2nd or 3rd best defensive player on the team. He has significantly under performed and he wants a big contract. I'm irritated that the asking price for his salary is elite money but he hasn't shown that at all. Not hate. I want him to succeed. I wish he was worth 35 mil. I just dont want to hurt our future by overpaying him.

I liked him. But this is his worst year in the NFL. And he is wanting a big contract. He doesn't deserve it. He wants to be paid like a top 3-5 player and he hasn't performed even close. That is not hating on him. He has had a very average year but wants HUGE money. I hope he doesn't get it.

That's idiocy. Grow up? I'm not insulting him. He's been a ghost all season. Why should we pay him anything more than he has proven he's worth? It will hurt the team you cheer for. The argument WAS; he gets pressures the sacks will come! Now he doesn't get either. AND he's abused in the run game. Tag and trade.

Brian Burns is 55TH in the league in total pressures, 17. 36TH in the league in sacks with 6.0 And his brother is complaining on twitter about not having a new contract? What kind of contract is he expecting? He has played his way out of a top tier deal. Give me a break. I'm done with him. He is Scott Fitterer's biggest mistake; he would be another team's $30 million dollar problem and we'd have draft capital again. I'm glad we held out on paying him, it was clearly the correct decision.

Evero didn't want it. He turned it down in Denver too. The injuries have been bad across the board defensively and makes his job much more impressive. Secondary: Horn, Chinn, CJ Henderson, Woods, and Bell have all missed time. LBs: Shaq and Grugier Hill for some time DL: Haynes , Yetur, Burns missed time He's a real good defensive coach

My list: 1. Ben Johnson , Lions OC A very large gap between 1 and 2 2. Slowik, Houston OC 3. Frank Smith, Dolphins OC 4. Harbaugh, Michigan HC 5. Evero 6. Mike Macdonald, Ravens DC

I don't know that it's a huge deal; it just didn't happen much in college and Reich apparent didn't even attempt to try. If it keeps pass rush honest, you have to do it. 2 inches of heigh shouldn't take an entire set of formations out of your playbook. Brees ran play action under center all the time.

Completely. We don't even try to keep defenses honest. And we have a struggling rookie QB who we keep forcing to throw without making it easier on him. It's seemed obvious that hard play action, bootlegs, reverses, RPO would be a huge benefit to Bryce AND an OL who is struggling to pass block.

RPOs are typically much more quick hitting plays with YAC designed. I hardly ever see them. Most of our shotgun play action are just straight play action, not a true read for Bryce to give or throw it.

Of course there is. But what in this scenario indicates that is happening here? It was clearly a poorly designed scheme that didn't play to our QBs strengths. I want to know how the hell it got to week 12 before somebody asked WTF was going on. It's baffling to take Young and then not incorporate any of his successful play designs as a HC. And I hope Russini is wrong and Fitt gets canned real soon (6 weeks and counting)

Who cares who it was? It was smart. Reich was failing and the FO tried to throw a life raft. He declined to take it and drowned. Fitterer needs to be fired anyway. But this isn't a problem. There is a thing called collaboration between a front office and coaching staff.

Reich's peers in the front office telling their co-worker that they design gameplans that help their QB is what you want. It's clear that's what's needed. Reich was stubborn and didn't. He was canned. There is not a single thing wrong it. This isn't a front office trying to actually design offense or call individual plays. It's calling out a glaring problem.

It doesn't look like Reich designed anything for this current roster.

Don't believe it.

I don't believe that. Allbright is not getting that scoop and nobody else reporting anything similar. And I really HOPE not.