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  1. when did he say this? got a link or sum?
  2. NFL loves it's storylines. Frank Reich making his panthers regular season coaching debut the same place where he made his panthers regular season playing debut.
  3. I'd rather take Brents at 39 if he's available.
  4. Well, yeah, but at least this year, if Desmond Ridder is half as competent and the Falcons coaching staff is half as competent to use Kyle Pitts, I can see the NFC South being a dogfight.
  5. It's really hard to improve your score for this test. You will get mostly the same results each time, because mental, on the spot processing is really hard to improve. I would say that they had him take the test several times to see if there was growth, but it sounds like there wasn't.
  6. (FROM THE ARTICLE) The newest thing in judging athletes is S2 Cognition, a business based in Nashville that has been marketing its product to NFL teams for about seven years. And, in interviews with several football executives this month, S2 testing has developed a reputation so strong in the industry that it undoubtedly will affect to some degree how quarterbacks are drafted. Suffice it to say, the candidacy for Alabama’s Bryce Young as the top quarterback only was strengthened by his preeminent performance on the S2 whereas the draft stock of Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, possibly the No. 2 prospect, took a hit. “The S2 people will say, ‘Hey, guys that graded high on this test don’t always play well,’” one club executive said, “’But, we’ve never had somebody grade low and play well.’” The S2 website showcases the results of Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow, who was the No. 1 pick in 2020. His total score of 97% was broken down into four sections: 94% on visual learning, 97% in instinctive learning, 97% in impulse control and 93% in improvisation. According to S2, the 30-to-45 minute exercise is conducted on what The Athletic’s Matt Barrows in February described as a “specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds.” It measures how players process and make split-second decisions. “Anticipating, reading, reacting and adapting to the game are measurable skills,” the website offers. Multiple sources said Young’s total score was 98% whereas Stroud’s total score was 18%. Some other total scores in the class of quarterbacks this year were 96% for Fresno State’s Jake Haener, 93% for Kentucky’s Will Levis and Brigham Young’s Jaren Hall, 84% for Houston’s Clayton Tune, 79% for Florida’s Anthony Richardson and 46% for Tennessee’s Hendon Hooker. “Stroud scored 18,” an executive said. “That is like red alert, red alert, you can’t take a guy like that. That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that’s ever done it in the league.” Justin Fields has started two seasons for Chicago, and among Buckeye retirees the ex-Bear Mike Tomczak might be next. It certainly wouldn’t be first-round busts Dwayne Haskins (2019) and Art Schlichter (1982). Haener, during a recent appearance at the 49ers’ visit day for local prospects in Santa Clara, Calif., admitted being told he did well on the S2. “I try to show people how I can process, how I can see things,” he told reporters. Young’s extraordinary score was in keeping with the anticipatory type of play that evaluators often cite as one of his greatest assets. “The only guy play-style-wise I can compare him to is Joe Burrow in his LSU year,” said an executive with extensive NFL experience. “Bryce is the best combination of poise, processing, instincts, toughness. This kid feels and sees so much.” When another executive was informed that Stroud scored extremely low, he said that it confirmed what he had seen on tape. “That was my concern with him,” the scout said. “His personality is just sort of calm and mellow and laidback, and that’s the way he plays. You look at how Bryce Young plays and how Stroud plays, I don’t see how anyone can look at those two play football and you’d want that guy (Stroud) over Young. Bryce’s mind is so quick and he processes so fast. Whereas with Stroud, everything is much, much more programmed.” One NFC executive described the S2 as a “great test.” Said an AFC executive: “For quarterbacks, it’s been pretty good,” Another executive said S2 made inroads early in its existence testing hitters for major league baseball clubs. “Then they started doing it in football,” the executive said. “If you get a high score as a quarterback it’s not saying you’re going to be a great player. But if you get a low score, it’s 100% — none of the quarterbacks that got a low score became good players. “The benchmark is 80. Eighty and above is good. Stroud was 18. It’s incredibly terrible. He’s going to be off (some team’s) boards. He will not be picked by those teams.” An executive said that Iowa State’s Brock Purdy, the 262nd and final player selected, had the highest S2 score among rookies in 2022. Despite the S2 results, a survey of 16 evaluators asking them for their choice as the quarterback with the best chance to bust showed Stroud behind Richardson and Levis. The bust vote count was eight for Richardson, five for Levis, two for Stroud and one for Young. In addition, the panel was asked to rank their top quarterbacks on a 1-2-3-4-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth 5 points, a second-place vote worth 4 and so on. Young, with 10 firsts and 72 points, led the way. He was followed by Stroud (56, two), Levis (46, three), Richardson (40, one), Hooker (20), Max Duggan (two), Haener (two), Tanner McKee (one) and Dorian Thompson-Robinson (one). Here’s a sampling how some scouts summed up this collection of quarterbacks. AFC evaluator: “I would say a bit above average. There’s not a bonafide guy. There’s no Andrew Luck. Comparing it to Joe Burrow, Tua (Tagovailoa), Justin Herbert, that class was way better coming out. You can poke holes in all these guys.” AFC evaluator: “It’s the most overhyped, and understandably so, group that I can recall. Every one of them is flawed, and some with major flaws. So I think they all get overdrafted and, unfortunately, they all underperform. Even if they become starters they’re bottom-half-of-the-league starters.” AFC evaluator: “Teams have gone to better athletes at quarterback, but they’re shorter.” NFC evaluator: “None of these guys are Andrew Luck or Trevor Lawrence.” AFC evaluator: “History tells us probably four of the (top) five will be busts. It’s crazy.”
  7. Like a lot of you, I've also seen all the Bryce clips on Sportscenter, ESPN, podcasts such as the PIvot. My question is, to you, the holistic huddler, why is Bryce Young (and to a lesser degree Will Anderson), why is Bryce Young going on this media tour anyway? What does he have to gain from it? Why isn't any of the other quarterbacks in the "consensus" (AR, WL, CJS) not doing media tours similar to Bryce? Enlighten me please. Disclaimer: This is in no way shape or form me disliking Bryce. I love Bryce and all the other QBs (except Levis). Just was curious about the timing and the suddenness of this media wave.
  8. One of em, yeah. Have to imagine Patrick would still be THE face though
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