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The WRs in the Lions game had 243 rec yards. The most the WRs have done in the Matt Rhule era. That's just the WR production I am talking about. There are games with more passing yards checking down to RBs and what not. So while PJ gives you all the bad Sam Darnold gives you of late.....PJ at least isn't gun shy and will attack. The last 5 weeks simply doesn't have that. The bad is the same at this point with both. At least PJ isn't shell shocked and will take shots. and I don't care about coming off the bench. PJ is horrible. If you are down multiple scores and ask to him to pass every down....he will go down in a blaze of glory.

The one actual epsiode of the PJ show.....was better than what we have seen the last 5 weeks. Just a fact. Go check the WR production in the Lions game. PJ might give you turnoevers and dumb plays. But the only time he started he got the ball into the hands of the WRs. WRs had the most yards in the PJ game than any other last year I believe.

If Matt Rhule gave Joe Brady me? What do you think his playcalling would be? Well, he would call a run every down. It wouldn't work out well but that is all Joe Brady could do. Would that make Brady a juvenile play caller? Actually, he would run the wildcat every play and put me pointlessly outside. Even me taking a snap would be too risky. That is just an exagrerrated view of Joe Brady's life right now. Sam can't do basics. Yet people want Joe Brady to do scheme up a bunch more stuff that is over Sam's head.

this is true. But, but he was a rookie OC. Not just the NFL but as a playcaller. Should of been accepted he would have to learn situational stuff and gameflow stuff as time went on. Saw last year that his overall system is pretty good if he has even basic QB play.

Give the best QB coach in the NFL Jimmy Clausen. He is still Jimmy Clausen. It's a talent driven league. Even a talented OL groups are setup to fail in today's NFL. There is no coaching up 4 guys who are backups all lined up beside each other that is going to make a really bad QB look good either.

they do belong in the NFL. They are a cast of backup offensive lineman. if all you had to do was hire a coach to make backups look like starters, people would spend all their time investing in OL coaches and not in the actual OL.

Joe Brady being scapegoated pretty much guarantees we will bring in an old NFL retread next year. No one young with potential is going to risk the rep damage coming here would do. Joe Brady might be good....he might not. You won't know either way giving him Sam Darnold and this OL. He is a passing guy. But he did get the most productive seaosn out of everyone his first season... before we went the comical Sam route.

scapegoat season is here! How dare the OL coach not be able to get this cast of misfits to play like well paid and talented group!

Question was who was more disappointing to us. we had 3 years of Darnold being horrible in the NFL before he got here. At least with Clausen you could have some actual false hope before he took the field since he was a draft pick and rookie.

Career wise? No. last 5 weeks? Yeah, that’s Jimmy Jam football.

I’d cast my vote for Jimmy Jam. Sam is just doing what he has done for now 4 straight years I didn’t like Jimmy from the jump but his level of suck was more surprising just because we hadn’t witnessed it in the NFL yet IMO. Jimmy didn’t even look like he had played a Notre Dame. Looked like he pulled a Kobe or Lebron and just came out of HS. So bad. Man he was bad. Mel Kiper still showing up to work after his mouth wrote that check too

Sam has always been a non field seeing turnover machine. Started at USC. But the lack of parity in college made all his bad play less of a big deal. his turnovers stats have always been bonkers

I said no one was arguing that outside of maybe a troll account. And then you then pointed out a troll account Sam is a dumpster fire. It’s going to dominate conversation. Which makes sense.

And your everyone is saying narrative is referencing an account that was just created called CammyCamLoveTheChildren lol. I acknowledged in my original post that there might be one or two troll accounts. overall, the Sam heat on the huddle has always acknowledged the laundry list of other problems in Carolina. I’m harder on Sam than anyone here. Rhule is our biggest problem. Sam is the easier fix. Again, QB is going to get the most talk.

Panther fan base = day traders Panther fan base needs to = folks that buy Apple and just sit on it forever

NFL teams are also largely mom and pop type orgs in reality. So your owner, HC and GM really matter a lot.

saying Sam is a dumpster fire (which he is)….isn’t the same thing as saying he is the only problem Carolina has Carolina has several big problems. Tepper, Rhule, Brady, OL, and the gigantic dumpster fire known as Sam. QBs always are going to dominate the talk because that is what the NFL is about.

I’d definitely gamble on Joe Brady if I was another team. Not as OC. Bring him on to the offensive staff if I had a OL and QB to actually see what he brings to the table. he is a passing guy forced to run a John Fox run O with no OL.

Ok. Everyone is saying it is all Sam fault. OL is actually good. So is Rhule. So is Brady. So is Robby. that’s what people are saying lol

Nah. It’s just the last part of my post. It’s a QB league so that is naturally where the convo goes. We brought in the worst QBS in the NFL and he is huge part of the problem. everyone knows the OL sucks and the coaches are lacking too. But again, it’s a QB league. Sam is going to dominate the talk. I mean there might one or two people trolling saying that. Most of those hard on Sam acknowledge there is a lot wrong in Carolina.

Literally no one says it is 100% all Sam and only Sam. but Sam is a huge part of the problem and his part was painfully obvious from day 1 and avoidable. He is the worst QB in the NFL. Horrible OL play isn’t actually a unique thing to Carolina. Lots of teams have it. Every week we see our stud pass rushers go literally unblocked to the opposing QB. And bad coaching is pretty common too. it’s a QB league. So it the convo is always going to be centered there

Start of season skews it a little. But the last 5 games is every bit as bad as prime Clausen 2010.

lol. That can’t be true. It just can’t.

Easily the Sam trade. We gave up multiple picks for the worst QB in the NFL. and we overpaid to get him Sam. Menshew and others proved that. CJ was drafted in 2020 and didn’t look like hot garbage when he did play last season. That’s a decent gamble for a 3rd even if he has some mental stuff going on.