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Really would help to know the average distance of the clutch kicks too 2011 Panther Orlando Mare rates pretty high all time on clutch kicks.

Sam makes his top 10 of QBs that are 25 and under. #9. basically the only starting QB he beat out was Daniel Jones who is # 10 I think.

pretty sure I have watched the Saints O a time or two.....especially the version that didn't cater to letting Brees finish out his career with no arm. and I'm not sure 3 pass completions beyond 10 yards is the Saints/LSU Payton O in effect. OLs don't have to hold long to successfully attack beyond 10 yards. Deep bombs isn't what is argued for. Intermediate. That's where you saw a lot of the bad in NY though.

and people all view me as some giant Sam hater. But again, I was an advocate to go get him when he really wasn't talked about around here. But that was to kick the tires. The potential seemed worth it. But not to make him the only plan/option. That's my problem. I think given how bare we are at QB.....they are going to coach a super conservative approach with Sam. Which is just going to delay the obvious questions that needed to be addressed.

well will see. I view Sam for what he is. A 4th year starter. Rehab project or not. He has to prove he can play like a starting NFL QB pretty quick, especially given Matt Rhule has opted to have this roster be Sam Darnold and nothing else. I got no interest in giving him 5 or 6 years to just confirm he is what we likely knew in year 2.

correct, all short throws are not checkdowns. But like I said, statistically, he is overwhelming playing with 10 yards of field. a trend that comes form camp, to preseason, to week 1. you can't compete with good teams with that type of football. The Payton/Brady offense isn't a small ball passing scheme. That simply is what Matt Rhule and his QBs are doing. That was built in with Teddy. Looks coached in for Darnold.

if you look at week 1, his half in the preseason, and camp reports....yeah, he is checking down at a very high rate and is almost overwhelming playing with 10 yards of field. And while he might make the occasional intermediate throw, but he isn't having success there. Zero completions in week 1 10-20 yards downfield, 1 in the preseason, and it noted and questioned all camp about the checkdowns.

well, it is simplistic. And Zach Wilson would have been statistically superior to Sam Darnold in his rookie debut. But yeah, considering Sam is essentially just playing with 10 yards of field.....but yeah, if you watched the 2 QBs last Sunday, Zach Wilson looks more promising. The purpose of bringing up the CMC swap was clearly to dismiss the fact that the W and stat column don't make the argument. Not that I am a fan of Zach Wilson nor do I think he will have success long term.

You give CMC to the Jets….they win that game and the Jets QB has the best stat line.

some of the best moments in stadiums are prompted. College IMO has better traditions than the pros. But yeah, the loudspeaker, band, scoreboard, cheerleaders, etc. all prompt and set stuff into motion. Gamecock fans are waiting on that shitty techno music to hit. Clemson fans are waiting on the band. And on and on.

Yeah, teams prompting chants and fan action is pretty routine. Professional to college.

was Joey Slye ever asked to kick a 50 or under game winning kick?

is there a 4th option? Daniel Jones is about to be Sam Darnold after this year.

for your first 3 NFL starts (including a postseason game vs the SB champs).....he has shown a lot of promise. I don't think anyone is calling him the next Joe Montana. But yeah, what he is doing is what you are suppose to get excited about. Take a look around here, people get more excited about guys who have given us less to be pumped about it. would you rather have our current backup QB or Heinicke?

not sure that is all on him. WR stopped on what was suppose to be a quick hitter. regardless, that play doesn’t change the fact he has shown a lot more than our stable of backups.

Heinicke has a little magic to him. Looked promising in the playoffs last year….probably should of kept him around instead of Grier and company

I agree. That is a ball a QB is forced to throw because it is a practice rep. There was no play. They basically have to throw the pick.

But we know their scheme isn't a checkdown offense. That's not what Payton does and it's now what got Joe Brady the job here. So to me, that points elsewhere. Likely, we employed a checkdown and broken QB or....Matt Rhule actually prefers and asks for conservative O because he wants to play to his defense (and that is what every successful Matt Rhule team has done).

Did he have a good rushing game against the Saints? he found the endzone but his high is 64 yards and that was at 2 yards a clip.

There was actually a lot of recent talk about his clean pocket play and red zone play. https://www.google.com/amp/s/pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/19/panthers-sam-darnold-red-zone-clean-pocket-numbers-troubling/amp/ so I guess you could tin foil hat it that our horrific OL play is 4D chess by the staff. But that still leaves the red zone. I think the pressure that has gotten same in the past is more situational….where he felt the QB had to make the play.

NFL teams are ran more comparable to mom and pop shops than fortune 500 companies.

it’s not much damage control…. it’s like….oh sorry about that. Since you are crying we will give it to you for one game in order for you to officially say your goodbye to it.

Best players play? Period? This is football we are talking about. The best players don’t always play. That broad statement certainly isn’t true. we know there are plenty of football coaches are flawed, biased, and dumb quite often. I mean every coach and gm we have had to date did dumb stuff…..but this time it’s TOTALLY different? Odds don’t favor that. Everyone does dumb things at times. Football coaches certainly aren’t excluded from that…..just like no one in another profession is. Name any job on any level…and you can find someone doing something dumb. Are fans right on this example? Don’t know. Garbage man to POTUS. Everyone does dumb stuff from time to time blinded by their own biases and being so close to it. Which you see a fair amount in sports IMO.

I'm going to go with the Saints. Just can't bet on Carolina after the OL performance we saw last week in a divisional matchup right now. They are going to need to move some bodies around on the OL and find something that works better and it doesn't sound like Rhule is there yet. Plus, historically, CMC doesn't run well vs Sean Payton and the Saints. Career high is only 64 rushing yards. I don't have a score prediction. Just don't see our OL being there yet for a game like this.